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superheel 12-09-2008 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 641604)
You can't really go to much lower than 16 in my opinion (I think the lowest I heard about was in Denmark where it's apparently 15).

I hear what you're saying but there is another side to why we have the law at the age it is.

The idea is that while a boundary is needed to protect young girls from predatory men... one is also needed to protect full grown men from "hormone flaring" young girls.

A 16 year old actively seeking sex can appear fully developed and lie about her age to get what she wants.

Very few 14 year olds appear fully developed.

As for my 16 year old love life... Hehe... I dated a girl who I thought I was in love with sure.. but I dated women when I was 19, 24, and 26 who I thought I was in love with too.

Why are my 16 year old feelings not valid yet my 19, 24 and 26 year old ones are?

Guys instead of encouraging, maybe we should just tell him to stay away from that girl. Because no matter how you look at it, no matter how this 16 year old wants sex, it's just not right and it will never be right to have a relationship with a minor and i'm talking about today not 200 years ago. This is for his safe, because he can be in serious trouble for touching that girl.

And theres a huge difference between a 16 year old and a 19 year old or a 24 or a 26 year old. Because girls think more maturely when their 18 and they can do stupid stuff below that age.

Ronin4hire 12-09-2008 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by superheel (Post 641607)
Guys instead of encouraging, maybe we should just tell him to stay away from that girl. Because no matter how you look at it, no matter how this 16 year old wants sex, it's just not right and it will never be right to have a relationship with a minor and i'm talking about today not 200 years ago. This is for his safe, because he can be in serious trouble for touching that girl.

And theres a huge difference between a 16 year old and a 19 year old or a 24 or a 26 year old. Because girls think more maturely when their 18 and they can do stupid stuff below that age.

Actually I agreed with MMM when I said that the OP would do well to respect the laws of Japan as well as agree with the idea of a boundary.

Other than that my posts have had nothing to do with the OP.

As for my 16, 19, 24 and 26 year old feelings... I agree there is a huge difference... between all of them not just the 16 year old ones and the rest. I'm wondering... apart from the law... what makes "18" some sort of magical number when your feelings become valid?

MMM 12-09-2008 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 641604)
As for my 16 year old love life... Hehe... I dated a girl who I thought I was in love with sure.. but I dated women when I was 19, 24, and 26 who I thought I was in love with too.

Why are my 16 year old feelings not valid yet my 19, 24 and 26 year old ones are?

I didn't say your feelings weren't "valid" at 16, but are more likely to change and more quickly.

But look at the stats of those that marry young and those that wait:

"Figures released last year from the National Center for Health Statistics
found nearly half of marriages in which the bride is 18 or younger end in
separation or divorce
within 10 years. For brides 25 and older, half as many
marriages break up
."

(from the Associated Press)

This means that there is twice as much chance you will divorce if you marry at 18 than if you do at 25. That's why your feelings are more "valid" the older you get.

Ronin4hire 12-09-2008 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 641609)
I didn't say your feelings weren't "valid" at 16, but are more likely to change and more quickly.

Look at the success rates of people that are married before the age of 20, then 20-25, then after 25.

But look at the stats of those that marry young and those that wait:

"Figures released last year from the National Center for Health Statistics
found nearly half of marriages in which the bride is 18 or younger end in
separation or divorce
within 10 years. For brides 25 and older, half as many
marriages break up
."

(from the Associated Press)

This means that there is twice as much chance you will divorce if you marry at 18 than if you do at 25. That's why your feelings are more "valid" the older you get.

I see... I misunderstood what you were getting at. :)

superheel 12-09-2008 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 641608)
As for my 16, 19, 24 and 26 year old feelings... I agree there is a huge difference... between all of them not just the 16 year old ones and the rest. I'm wondering... apart from the law... what makes "18" some sort of magical number when your feelings become valid?


Now that's where biology and all the hormone talks come in.

Onyx 12-09-2008 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 641512)

When the question is "Should I have sex with a 16 year old girl?" the safe answer is always "No!"

I don't recall telling him to do otherwise :rolleyes: :vsign:

Ronin4hire 12-09-2008 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by superheel (Post 641614)
Now that's where biology and all the hormone talks come in.

Perhaps... but it's not like I was completely irrational when I was that age. Nor are all 16 year olds completely irrational.

Coming back to the topic... I guess it doesn't help to be dismissive of anyone's feelings.

MMM 12-09-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Onyx (Post 641630)
I don't recall telling him to do otherwise :rolleyes: :vsign:

I guess I was saying that in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 641632)
Perhaps... but it's not like I was completely irrational when I was that age. Nor are all 16 year olds completely irrational.

Coming back to the topic... I guess it doesn't help to be dismissive of anyone's feelings.

I don't think anyone would deny that they truly think they are in love when they are 16. I am just saying, look at the biology and the statistics and you will see that what I mean.

I look back at my own crushes at that time and laugh. I thought I knew myself and knew the world.

blimp 12-09-2008 08:45 AM

in many countries' legislation it is added that if the adult has/had reason to believe that the person he/she has engage with in a sexual act is/was above age of consent, he or she is not deemed to have done anything illegal. this can for instance be, the adult was lied to or the minor looked or in some way gave the appearance of being be of or above the age of consent.

the above is however not applicable to the poster's question since he/she seems very aware of the girl's age.

to the poster, be extremely careful since there seems to be some ambiguity whether age of consent is 13 years old or 18 years as it seems to be indirectly referred to in the child welfare law.

theAlphaDuck 12-09-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 641356)

Have you not ever heard of the girls who have older BF's all the time?


LOL...i have..

It's because they have the "DADDY COMPLEX"

i do have to agree with salv.... getting with a 16yr old...well thats not really cricket is it...

women mature...at 19-21...that when they are in thier PRIME!!

also they are probably better at giving head than a 16 year old...

still if she wants to splay her legs for that dude....
then thats her decision...
she's 16...
so mature enough to know it mite hurt a little at first :P

although....
YCB is clearly in effect
(You Could do BETTER)
she is probably VERY flat chested....
sure she might have a tight little lady glove....
but believe me...you dont need to be shagin high school students to experience that.... just find a girl that knows what a pelvic floor is ;)

but if you MUST fuck her..... then PLEASE be sure to fuck her off soon after...

cos its not love...its infatuation...and thats fine...

but it would be ALOT more healthy...to just shag the little miss's brains out for a couple of nights...or weeks...and then drop her...

than to be in a relationship with her...

the attraction is clearly physical...
so don't get all namby pamby with emotions...

also...think about this...

your walking down the street in tokyo...with your little lolita.....
and 3 super hot 19-21 yr old girls walk past....
you could have had them before...but they see you holding hands with a 16yr old...

they just gonna think your a loser


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