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ryuurui 03-06-2011 11:45 PM
you didnt get my vibe but that's ok. You can't put both sexes into one bag due to fundamental mental or psychological differences. simply, we have a completely opposite mind setup. which by no means is a bad thing. Quite the contrary. It also has nothing to do with equality of sexes.

Ryzorian 03-07-2011 04:16 AM
I'm male, both biologically and "genderwise" and not afraid to let anyone know either. ;)

Gackt21 03-07-2011 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 854699)
you didnt get my vibe but that's ok. You can't put both sexes into one bag due to fundamental mental or psychological differences. simply, we have a completely opposite mind setup. which by no means is a bad thing. Quite the contrary. It also has nothing to do with equality of sexes.

I agree, the sexes are not created equal. The male is meant to be the leader and protector of the female sex for females are not built like men. This does not upset me but lets me know that men in the world need to take back leadership roles. I will stop ranting now. Anymore questions on the roles of man and woman.

junicorn 03-07-2011 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854728)
I agree, the sexes are not created equal. The male is meant to be the leader and protector of the female sex for females are not built like men. This does not upset me but lets me know that men in the world need to take back leadership roles. I will stop ranting now. Anymore questions on the roles of man and woman.
I agree. Not to say we are animals...but we are animals. The physical aspects of a male are naturally different than a woman and they are protectors. I am fine with girls and guys liking all different kinds of people, but in the same way some would say it is the enforcement of gender roles that keep people from being who they are, I think that the merging of genders and making men and women the same is also confusing genders and also keeping people from being who they are. In both situations people try to be what they think others want from them, even if subconsciously. Also, please note I used the word same and not equal, I feel that men and women are equal when you balance the different aspects that both offer.

ryuurui 03-07-2011 09:05 AM
Exactly. I need to however point out that females tend to be stronger mentally and can endure more (including physical pain). Women have also stronger social skills, and it is all related to their role as mothers. Women easier express what they feel thus release all the tension, reset and go further.

Men on the other hand suffer from testosterone drama, which affects many aspects of our lives, especially during the puberty disaster. However, because we are less concerned and involved emotionally, we do not panic and make decisions based on facts, which (in some cases) makes men better on-the-spot decision makers.

No sex is better, nor equal. If you read deeper and search through psychologigy related publications you will find out that sexes are not really that compatible.

protheus 03-07-2011 10:02 AM
Offtopic:As stated above, we are equal, but not the same.


Ontopic: Why do girls think those big fake eyelashes or blackened to black hole dark and stretched as far as possible are something attractive? Tbh, I hate that, and same for all my friends (not even one exception from the male side)...

catbat 03-07-2011 10:10 AM
I've never been one for that myself, or any of my girlfriends come to think of it. Its too much effort methinks.

junicorn 03-07-2011 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by protheus (Post 854772)
Offtopic:As stated above, we are equal, but not the same.


Ontopic: Why do girls think those big fake eyelashes or blackened to black hole dark and stretched as far as possible are something attractive? Tbh, I hate that, and same for all my friends (not even one exception from the male side)...
If you mean in Japan...being this is a Japan forum... It is bc Japanese girls have very short and straight eyelashes. This look is an attempt to compensate for the lack of eyelashes and to capture the look of a doll, which expresses innocence and youth, which is what Japanese guys are thought to want. I think fake lashes should only be used for photoshoots and on stage performances, but I must say when I see a loli on the train I get giddy at the adorableness. If girls wear them in America...probably skanks. Idk,

tokusatsufan 03-07-2011 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RobinMask (Post 854697)
As someone cruelly compared this statement to Hitler I just want to say that I actually fully agree with you.

Biological sex is one thing, it has limitations and benefits, we can't change it fully either, only adapt it through surgeries, and it does have psychological and physical affects on a person. Gender, however, is a social and cultural construct and does not define a person. If you look at all the nationalities, all the time periods, all the cultures in the world . . . what defines a 'male' and 'female' is different to various extremes.

People are individuals and equals. Gender roles and preconceptions only hinder a person and their development, limiting options to them and pressuring them to act in a certain way or think/feel a certain way. If all races and sexualities are equal then people of both genders should be equal too, and - for that matter - gender is irrelevant.

I guess this is slightly more extreme than what Tokusatsufan said, and I know most people disagree with me, but hey, we all have our ideas and beliefs, and I would not say that advocating equality is anything like Hitler, Ryuurui.
Some people are just narrow-minded I suppose. Part of me can kind of see their point,but that's because everything I do I wonder if it was right or not! You're absolutely right. It's fun to see everyone get a chance.

ryuhebi13 03-07-2011 07:33 PM
Okay girls, what part of the opposite sex do you find most appealing? I am talking looks wise Re: Eyes, smile etc

:vsign:

Gackt21 03-07-2011 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854872)
Okay girls, what part of the opposite sex do you find most appealing? I am talking looks wise Re: Eyes, smile etc

:vsign:
Over all I would have to say if a man has a charming smile and can light up a room with it then it will bring me around. I am a fool for the charming smile of a male. *this is coming from a married woman.* The eyes of a man can also be a great turn on cause you can tell from his eyes if he will open up to you. If he can't mask his emotions well through his eyes then you know he will be passionate when the time comes. What goes along with the charming smile must be that when the male kisses you on the lips he must never seem invading. Me and my friends use to tell one another how much we hated when men stuck their tongues down our throats cause of a gag response. Major turn off. Don't seem desperate for a woman cause they won't remain if you do so.

ryuurui 03-07-2011 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854881)
What goes along with the charming smile must be that when the male kisses you on the lips he must never seem invading. Me and my friends use to tell one another how much we hated when men stuck their tongues down our throats cause of a gag response. Major turn off. Don't seem desperate for a woman cause they won't remain if you do so.
Funny you have mentioned that. It is amazing how many times I had this issue with girls who did not know how to kiss. It doesn't take much to soften their lips and tell them to relax, but not many girls of the bunch i dealth with were decent kissers from the start. Bloody shame because I love kissing.

junicorn 03-08-2011 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854872)
Okay girls, what part of the opposite sex do you find most appealing? I am talking looks wise Re: Eyes, smile etc

:vsign:
I like nice jaws and veiny arms... also height is important to me.

ryuhebi13 03-08-2011 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gackt21 (Post 854881)
The eyes of a man can also be a great turn on cause you can tell from his eyes if he will open up to you. If he can't mask his emotions well through his eyes then you know he will be passionate when the time comes. What goes along with the charming smile must be that when the male kisses you on the lips he must never seem invading. Me and my friends use to tell one another how much we hated when men stuck their tongues down our throats cause of a gag response. Major turn off. Don't seem desperate for a woman cause they won't remain if you do so.
That's interesting because one of my attractions to women are their eyes.

Yeah the whole tongue thing. It's like a little too eager, I can see how that's a Major turn off. Personally I like taking it slow, being responsive to the woman. Not just going straight for the tonsil assault.

ryuhebi13 03-08-2011 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by junicorn (Post 854913)
I like nice jaws and veiny arms... also height is important to me.
I've heard girls mention nice jaws and arms, confused the hell out of an old friend a he was convinced woman only sought one thing :rolleyes:

As in a lot taller than you, or just not really short?

TrainOfThought 03-08-2011 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by junicorn (Post 854913)
I like nice jaws and veiny arms... also height is important to me.
What's a "nice jaw" to you? Wide and super masculine (Clark Kent style), or a smaller and more feminine jaw/chin like Leonardo DiCaprio?

Veiny arms as in the "I'm your average thin guy with really low BF%" or "I'm really vascular since I work out a lot" or maybe "High blood pressure, BF% below 7% and extreeeeeme mass. Mr.Olympia, here I come!" type of guy?:mtongue:

I've always wondered something about the height thing.
I think I'm kinda tall (6' 3½"), but I still prefer short girls. Do you think it's weird to see guys of my height or taller with below average height girls?

junicorn 03-08-2011 02:14 PM
I am suuuuper short...like barely 5'1" and the shortest I like is 5' 10, so no I don't think it is weird to see tall guys with short girls. By nice jaw I mean any kind of definition. I like when a guy clenches his jaw and you can see the movement. As far as arms, I mean bc they use them... I don't like super skinny or feminine guys. I mean.. not body builder... eww but defined muscle is good. That being said, I have dated chubby short guys and scrawny tall guys and super muscular guys, but no feminine guys.

TrainOfThought 03-08-2011 02:47 PM
I see. Well, to me it seems a lot of tall guys date short girls, while average height guys date average height girls. It doesn't make sense! xD

I thought most girls would be grossed out by seeing the jaw muscles move, but I guess I could be wrong. I fail to see what's to like about it, but.. yeah.. Everyone's entitled to their opinion!

Now, this is where I think most girls (and guys as well) get confused about how muscles work. The way muscles look after any kind of work is caused by genetics and nothing else.
It doesn't matter if you lift stuff at the gym or anywhere else.
Also, not every bodybuilder looks like Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Lee Priest etc. Very few do, actually.
As a matter of fact, every person who goes to the gym to get bigger is a bodybuilder on a hobby, amateur or professional level.
And defined muscle is just a matter of having a low BF%. :mtongue:

junicorn 03-08-2011 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought (Post 855034)
I see. Well, to me it seems a lot of tall guys date short girls, while average height guys date average height girls. It doesn't make sense! xD

I thought most girls would be grossed out by seeing the jaw muscles move, but I guess I could be wrong. I fail to see what's to like about it, but.. yeah.. Everyone's entitled to their opinion!

Now, this is where I think most girls (and guys as well) get confused about how muscles work. The way muscles look after any kind of work is caused by genetics and nothing else.
It doesn't matter if you lift stuff at the gym or anywhere else.
Also, not every bodybuilder looks like Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Lee Priest etc. Very few do, actually.
As a matter of fact, every person who goes to the gym to get bigger is a bodybuilder on a hobby, amateur or professional level.
And defined muscle is just a matter of having a low BF%. :mtongue:
Touché my friend. I guess I don't like big muscles... mainly just broad shoulders and no man boobs.

ryuhebi13 03-08-2011 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by junicorn (Post 855037)
Touché my friend. I guess I don't like big muscles... mainly just broad shoulders and no man boobs.
LOL manboobs.

ryuhebi13 03-08-2011 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought (Post 855034)
It doesn't matter if you lift stuff at the gym or anywhere else.
Also, not every bodybuilder looks like Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Lee Priest etc. Very few do, actually.
True. To get away from that "skinny boy look" I started bodybuilding many years ago and thankfully I've just kept it at "well muscled" rather than "vein popping, bronze Jay Cutler" style. More power to them for winning gold at comps etc but It's not my thing. A certain cut off point was what I needed and I just maintain what muscle I do have. I've long since said goodbye to my skinny teens. Also, surfing and rock climbing are a good way to workout without the need for expensive gym memberships.

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Columbine 03-08-2011 06:56 PM
What do I find attractive in guys at first glance, hmmm, good question. Assuming they're not looking at me or specifically smiling.

General posture. You'll get my attention with an upright but not dominant stance more than a round-shoulder sloper or an alpha male chest-thrust and arm swagger.

General appearance; is he scruffy, tidy or quite what? Cheap I will go for but never dirty, careless or inappropriate.

Butt. Not gonna lie, I like my men to have a nice butt.

Other things... Neck line. Forearms. Hard to define, it's not a muscle thing but an aesthetic thing. Does it make a beautiful line or not? Lips, although mouth kind of lumps in with eyes for me. I generally note more about their expressiveness than shape or colour or anything specifically physical.

xYinniex 03-09-2011 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854872)
Okay girls, what part of the opposite sex do you find most appealing? I am talking looks wise Re: Eyes, smile etc

:vsign:
Looks wise? Kind eyes. Total sucker and they're not always kind too. Bummer.

Also, I like guys that aren't too skinny but aren't chubby/fat either. Like not too muscley either. Normal (like no super abs. that's for the posters!)

TalnSG 03-10-2011 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854872)
Okay girls, what part of the opposite sex do you find most appealing? I am talking looks wise Re: Eyes, smile etc

:vsign:
Eyes - the darker and less round, the better.:rolleyes:
After that, I am another one of those indescriminate women who just look at the whole picture (posture, demeanor, dress, expressions, etc.) and take it from there.

Though when I was a swimming and diving judge, the first thing I noticed was those shoulders flexing in front of me.

Elenwe 03-14-2011 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 854872)
Okay girls, what part of the opposite sex do you find most appealing? I am talking looks wise Re: Eyes, smile etc

:vsign:
Hummm.... good question. Body in general, a toned body and handsome eyes. What I find handsome as an eye color would be green, pale blue, turquoise and of course, dark-brown. In Asian guys, I like cute guys with a small stature.

ryuhebi13 03-19-2011 04:35 PM
Good responses ladies. It seems that eyes play an important factor in attraction.

Next question: Would you date your best friend? Or do you think it would ruin a perfect friendship?

Cayla 04-11-2011 11:38 PM
C-O-N-F-U-S-I-N-G!!!!!!:confused: :eek:

Hahaha. lol
:vsign:

Cayla 04-11-2011 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ryuhebi13 (Post 857820)
Good responses ladies. It seems that eyes play an important factor in attraction.

Next question: Would you date your best friend? Or do you think it would ruin a perfect friendship?
I know yal guys are all adults and i'm 11 but...

A W K W A R D

JohnBraden 04-11-2011 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cayla (Post 861159)
C-O-N-F-U-S-I-N-G!!!!!!:confused: :eek:

Hahaha. lol
:vsign:
I can see how some of the questions asked here could be seen as not age-appropriate for some members....

philostyle 04-12-2011 01:40 AM
I personally have dated my best friend ages ago because he admitted that he liked me.. but I didn't end up falling for him in the end so it was left at that. we're still friends up to now but after the short stint we had we no longer kept the best friend thing.. I think most of the time stuff like boy and girl being best friends is just a front. one of them likes the other. :p

philostyle 04-12-2011 01:42 AM
In a guy, I look at the whole face, mostly smile or eyes. and then if they can converse and make me laugh. but I always wait until he likes me first or expresses that he does. I never make the first move or confession..

tenmins 04-12-2011 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by philostyle (Post 861167)
I think most of the time stuff like boy and girl being best friends is just a front. one of them likes the other. :p
I agree. Seen it so many times. In my experience it has usually been the guy who has the crush and the girl who has the maturity.

protheus 04-12-2011 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by philostyle (Post 861167)
I think most of the time stuff like boy and girl being best friends is just a front. one of them likes the other. :p
Well, logically, you can withstand seeing every day someone you don't like?
But still, from like to love there is a little step, and not everyone makes that step, so maybe it's a front for some, but not for all.

RobinMask 04-12-2011 02:07 PM
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TalnSG 04-12-2011 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RobinMask (Post 861221)
I have to disagree with this. I think it's entirely possible for a platonic love to exist between two people without it turning romantic. Sure, sometimes a guy/girl might have a feeling for their opposite-sex best friend, but in my experience people who have those feelings don't settle for friendship because they want more, they'll confess and either get together, stay friends or break up the friendship.

Personally around a quarter of my friends are of the opposite sex, and I have no feelings for any of them, and I can guarantee not one of them has feelings for me either. It annoys me when people see friendships between men and women as just a 'front', or a prelude to something more, it kind of trivialises the meaning of the entire friendship (for want of a better word).

Completely agree with you. Having been "one of the guys" ever since I can remember I tend to become good friends with men where there is nothing more than that in involved. And that tendency of women to suspect otherwise is why I have only a very few chosen female friends - they know better than to build their own definitions of other people's relationships.

tenmins 04-15-2011 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RobinMask (Post 861221)
I have to disagree with this. I think it's entirely possible for a platonic love to exist between two people without it turning romantic. Sure, sometimes a guy/girl might have a feeling for their opposite-sex best friend, but in my experience people who have those feelings don't settle for friendship because they want more, they'll confess and either get together, stay friends or break up the friendship.
The point wasn't about friends it was about 'best friends'. To me this means, if you are single, you are spending more time with this person than anybody else. I totally agree that friends of the opposite sex can exist with no troubles whatsoever. I have many myself.

philostyle 04-15-2011 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tenmins (Post 861401)
The point wasn't about friends it was about 'best friends'. To me this means, if you are single, you are spending more time with this person than anybody else. I totally agree that friends of the opposite sex can exist with no troubles whatsoever. I have many myself.
yes. this is what I meant. I have a lot of guy friends. although I did say only "most" of the time not 100% of the time. one time in high school, i became "best friends" with the best friend of my boyfriend at that time and we were really just friends. it was my boyfriend that brought us together though. lol.

rio09 04-21-2011 11:58 AM
I don't know why, but having girls for friends wont do any good for me right now.

Cause they look at my looks(attractive or not), making me nervous as hell, and sometime they smile...

maybe because i'm single and worried if girls make move on me(fall for me, because i choose her *type* )

I used to have girlsfriends( ye just friend), since i had realationship.
It was easy to talk to them, cause i only have *my girl* on my mind.

But now i'm single and vulnerable to attractive girls...haha :P


OK girls i have important question for all of you...

ok i find this girl really attractive
she is shy,polite,logically person, and not straightforward.

She is someone who will apologized for something small. She want someone who caring,honest and wanting slow relationship( cheek kiss is like sex for her)

So HOW DO I CONVINCE HER ?..THAT I AM THE ONE SHE LOOKING FOR??

Anyhow i know seriously i can take care of her, if i meeting her i can convince her and doesn't have to ask anyone for advices.

BUT we never meet though, because it's online dating ...so give me some advice what i should write..!!..

i already wrote 4421 words about ME and about *if she my gf* stuff ..without promising..

she is busy with her life...but when she check it ..i want to impress her ...

MissMisa 04-21-2011 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 861223)
Completely agree with you. Having been "one of the guys" ever since I can remember I tend to become good friends with men where there is nothing more than that in involved. And that tendency of women to suspect otherwise is why I have only a very few chosen female friends - they know better than to build their own definitions of other people's relationships.
Agreed, 90% of my close friends are male, obviously I'm not romantically involved with any/all of them. Having a lot of male friends in turn puts females off you so it's just a catch 22, really.

TalnSG 04-21-2011 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tenmins (Post 861401)
The point wasn't about friends it was about 'best friends'. To me this means, if you are single, you are spending more time with this person than anybody else. I totally agree that friends of the opposite sex can exist with no troubles whatsoever. I have many myself.

It still applies for me. My 2 best friends are male. They understand me better than anyone and we can (and do) talk about everything.

The time spent with one of them does have an unexpected down side though. When we are in public together, we get along so well and even resemble each other so much that strangers think we are either a couple or related.

Sometimes that isn't a good for a wingman ;) but he makes it work anyway.


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