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01-05-2007, 04:40 PM

Very true. I've been doin Hiragana for about two weeks...okay, well, here's Sore/sono, are/ano and dore/dono:

Sono/Sore- that (over there.) The object is further from, but not by much.
Ano/Are- that (way over there.) The object is much further from you than when using "sono" or "sore."
Dono/Dore- which (usually of three or more items) Like, "Which is blue?" (Dore ga aoi desu ka?)



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01-05-2007, 07:07 PM

Hmm...well, i haven't learned all the particles in the language, so it would be nice if you could list them along with what meaning they have ^^.
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Very true. I've been doin Hiragana for about two weeks...okay, well, here's Sore/sono, are/ano and dore/dono:

Sono/Sore- that (over there.) The object is further from, but not by much.
Ano/Are- that (way over there.) The object is much further from you than when using "sono" or "sore."
Dono/Dore- which (usually of three or more items) Like, "Which is blue?" (Dore ga aoi desu ka?)
Also, "sono/sore" is used when the object being described is close to the listener, "kono/kore" is used when the object being described is close to the speaker, and "ano/are" is used when the object being described is far from both the speaker and the listener.

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Hmm...well, i haven't learned all the particles in the language, so it would be nice if you could list them along with what meaning they have ^^.
...There are over 70 particles...^_^; I don't think it would be possible to list them all.


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01-05-2007, 07:51 PM

Lol, wow, okay then ^^;;;

Then i'd just like to ask what the 'ni' particle means ^^.
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Lol, wow, okay then ^^;;;

Then i'd just like to ask what the 'ni' particle means ^^.
In what context? Could you give a particular sentence? There are multiple "ni" particles that are used for different things, so...


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01-07-2007, 08:17 PM

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"des" is a misspelling, but it's only the WAY the Japanese say it most of the time. "Desu" is the proper word.
yeah that's the way they say it. Because *u* at the end of a word, if there's a *K* or a *S*just before, you don't need to pronouce it.
Like in Arigato Gosaimasu, most of people don't pronouce the U at the end


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From what I see, Japanese doesn't....use the same...words for english. Like you used desu ka many of times, but in english, I see no same word in each question. I dont understand that. does ka or desu ka means it is a question?
I guess you got problem because the structure and the grammar is so different of ours.
Desu ka could be understood by *it is* but it is not exacly what it means...It's used to perform the verb *to be*
Nan desu ka - What it is/what is it
Dare Desu ka - Who is it
Kyoko desu - I'm Kyoko

I don't know if it's clear... sorry if I can't help more then this ...


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wOOt Japanese studies... *sits in bench* Teach me oh great sensei how to say:

If you don't get your ass out of my face i will kick you until you will squirm in blood you evil nOOb of the stupidist evilish bloodsucking computerprogram....

Well something like that then ... and how to talk normal and so on
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How much is ...? ...wa ikura desu ka?

Where can i find...? ...wa doko desu ka?

How long to... ? (time or place) ...donokuri desu ka?

Do you have..... ? ....arimasu ka?
Hey there, i'd like to learn Japanese. But i'm not really sure bout' it cause i'm learning Spanish.I'm in my 2nd year.


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Hey there, i'd like to learn Japanese. But i'm not really sure bout' it cause i'm learning Spanish.I'm in my 2nd year.
Any thing is possible if you try. In Japanese if the verb understood you do not need a subject or noun (E.g. I am going = ikimasu) Further more In English (as well as Spanish I believe) "a verb must agree with its subject."

here is an example using "go" as the verb.

In English
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Person----Singlular ---- Plural

First------- I go------- we go

Second----you go ---- you go

Third -- he/she/it goes--they go


In Japanese

Person -----Singluar----Plural

First------Ikimasu------Ikimasu

Second-- Ikimasu -----Ikimasu

Third---- Ikimasu ----- Ikimasu
Info Provided by "Barron's Japanese Grammar Second Edition"

I hope that makes sense.




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