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If people are going to act out their game fantasies in real life, rape isn't necesarily the worst one.

Doom has been a favorite before... just lucky those guys wern't skilled with a chainsaw, and used guns instead. GTA has chainsaws, too. Or even some basic Ninja game, like Tenchu; I doubt sneaking up behind people with a sword and cutting their throats will go down well in the media, either.

Fact is, psychos are going to exist, games or not. They always have. Things like this have been common long before media existed. And even in countries where this media is still absent (Afghanistan, African countries), rape is a massive problem. Banning some nerds from jerking off in a particular way won't really change anything. If anything, they'll get bored with no porn left, and start to think of other ways to get their rocks off... who knows what they'll come up with...

Of course, clubs like from that school that exist and rape women, they arn't at all connected to pervert gaming. That is just plain criminal illegal. The only reason people connect clubs like that to things like this is they're activists trying to put some weight in their swing. This won't help reality in any way. In fact, it'd damage their cause; trying to tell people games are responsible for problematic communities which is complete bullshit; it will divert effort to try and fix insignificant problems where it should be being used to catch real criminals.


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I think the biggest public concerns are that it may justify rape of men and women.

I've never watched the game, but I am presuming the rape game involves both sexes.


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I think the biggest public concerns are that it may justify rape of men and women.

I've never watched the game, but I am presuming the rape game involves both sexes.
They will involve both sexes, but it will be mostly females.

But the idea that it will justify such a thing is delusional. I believe the kind of people who will do such a thing will exist even if the games are absent. I believe this because it's true... I mean, they always have!

If people in society cannot see the problem or reason why raping people is bad, then it isn't the games fault. It is a serious lack of cultural values/strength.


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I think the biggest public concerns are that it may justify rape of men and women.

I've never watched the game, but I am presuming the rape game involves both sexes.
Why would you assume that?
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They will involve both sexes, but it will be mostly females.

But the idea that it will justify such a thing is delusional. I believe the kind of people who will do such a thing will exist even if the games are absent. I believe this because it's true... I mean, they always have!

If people in society cannot see the problem or reason why raping people is bad, then it isn't the games fault. It is a serious lack of cultural values/strength.
I find your logic backwards here.

Rape is wrong.

So when packaged in a product that makes rape OK, if people can't see that rape is wrong, then the people are stupid.

Huh?

That is like saying racism is wrong, but if people can't see through a game that promotes racist stereotypes, then the consumer is as fault. So where is the repsonsibility of the game producers. By this logic they should have the right to make anything, and all responsibility falls on the consumer.
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Why would you assume that?
probably because its called rape GAMES. kinda like olympic games but instead of a medal your just scarred for life.


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probably because its called rape GAMES. kinda like olympic games but instead of a medal your just scarred for life.
What I meant was, why would ozkai assume that men are the victims of rape as much as the women are in this genre?
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What I meant was, why would ozkai assume that men are the victims of rape as much as the women are in this genre?
probably because he's never been a woman before. but in terms of a game i think woman would do what it takes to win it. but sadly in real life its not the same thing, i know. my friend was raped when we were in elementary school and its a really terrible thing. i think ozkai is right about the game and men being more victims than woman, but in real life woman the real victims. game or not its really terrible and may rapists burn in hell.


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probably because he's never been a woman before. but in terms of a game i think woman would do what it takes to win it. but sadly in real life its not the same thing, i know. my friend was raped when we were in elementary school and its a really terrible thing. i think ozkai is right about the game and men being more victims than woman, but in real life woman the real victims. game or not its really terrible and may rapists burn in hell.
I think you are not understanding what I am saying.

These are not really "games" but fantasy reenactments.

Men are not raped in these programs. Women and girls are.

How you can say "men being more victims than women" is beyond me.

I do agree with your sentiment about real rapists.
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I think you are not understanding what I am saying.

These are not really "games" but fantasy reenactments.

Men are not raped in these programs. Women and girls are.

How you can say "men being more victims than women" is beyond me.

I do agree with your sentiment about real rapists.

Ohhh. ok i get it now. your right then. well like i said whether its a game or not, rape is wrong. it should be pretty obvious to everyone in this thread that anything with the title rape in it is pretty weird.

RAPE IS WRONG. doesn't matter if you say "but its just a game", or "its just a fantasy of mine", doesnt change the fact that the fantasy is pretty disgusting and illegal if you give in to that urge. but look on the bright side. once your released from prison you get to be on a list and everyone knows where you live.


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