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Mankind probably deserves it... But I honestly don't buy it.
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I'm not sure what to believe about the 2012 thing. I'm neutral about it. My mom's always saying that there's a lot of signs that the end is coming [we're all religious] but then she says that there's supposed to be all these false signs and stuff in every generation and then she goes on about how humans aren't going to know [ever] when the end is and that "it will come like a thief in the night."
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I have a feeling that something will happen on the "predicted" date but I cant put my finger on it....
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Do you think it's bad, or good. *hopeful*
Cyasarin: Damn, that was a good simile your mom used. ^^ |
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Damn...>.<
Cool, religious quates are really cool. ^^ |
My uncle believes in it. He gets kind of annoying. Everything he says is about the end of the world. >.<
But I dont really believe it |
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I'm pretty sure he doesnt do that...though that scene would look rather amusing....
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woah, first time I have heard of this...
are we talkin' right on New Years? I don't really buy it, but I bet a lot of people do and are gonna try and do some crazy stuff the next four or so years... |
2012(aka doom's day)pft i've herd this before
hmmmmm... yeah i've heard of this before
well if it's true i'll die young *sigh*but i don't think it's going to be the "end" but i do think it's gonna change i mean there is the global warming now and that's gonna change a few thing *hmmmm*-_-. but it's some thing to think about but if there was such a thing as *the end* it would problly be man made .-_-, so we could stop it *sigh*human''s :rolleyes: but i don't reckon worry about it to much.:D or you'll end up hurting you self or something :rolleyes: ___________________________________________________________________ i say this wile i listen to doom music alright change to happy dancy song's :cool: ___________________________________________________________________ |
:confused: i've never heard of this lol
(eiri i didnt know you were still on jf *hugs*) |
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I think it's all rubbish. People have been working themselves into a panic over every little "doomsday" prediction for years.:rolleyes: Do I think the world will end? Meh...I'm a Christian, so yeah, I believe in the whole Revelations thing but I don't think it's going to be in 2012. My mother is big into the "signs" and she's positive that it's getting close. *shrug* Not getting into religion here, but I'm ready to go when ever the horn blows and it's time. Personally, I say live each day like it's your last. Then it won't matter if something happens today, tomorrow, or 2012. Live your life to the fullest and have no regrets.:vsign:
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End of the Mayan Calender: Part I
:eek: December 20, 2012 C.E. The day we all shall perish!
(hehe, not really :D ) The 2012 doomsday prediction is based on a misunderstanding of the Mayan calender. I'm going to try my best to explain how that calender works. Let me apologize now, because this will be a little technical. I can't help it. The keeping of time is a technical matter. It also wander into the area of region. Again sorry, I can't help it. They Mayans believed that time and religion were related. First of all the Mayan calendar isn't really Mayan. It predates the Mayan civilization by over 300 years. It was first used by the Epi-Olmec people. Therefore scholars refer to it as the Mesoamerican Calendar. Second, they actually used three different calenders. The Tzolk'in, the Haab', and the long count. I'll start with the first two calenders. They are somewhat easy and don' t cause any scary predictions. Because this is a rather tedious and long explanation I am going explain each of the calenders in a separate post. (to be continued...) |
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Tzolk'in (Count of Days) This is a 260 day calendar, and was used to keep track of religious and ceremonial events. It was composed 13 periods (trecena) of 20 days (haab'). [13 × 20 = 260 days] The names of the days (haab') are: Imix', Ik', Ak'b'al, K'an, Chikchan, Kimi, Manik', Lamat, Muluk, Ok, Chuwen, Eb' B'en, Ix, Men, Kib', Kab'an, Etz'nab', Kawak, and Ajaw. The periods (trecena) were simply numbered 1 through 13. Where most people get lost is how the progression of the dates is counted. After each day both the trecena and the haab' get incremented by 1. Example sequence of dates: 01 Imix'Every haab' and trecena had a symbol so that any date could be written with only 2 characters. Using this system every combination was unique, so a date like 10 Ok would only occur once during each cycle of the tzolk'in year. With the tzolk'in there is no method for keeping track of the year. That's were the other calendars come in at. :) (to be continued...) |
End of the Mayan Calender: Part III
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Haab' (Solar Calender) This was the calendar for keeping track of the seasons. Like the ancient Egyptian calendar it was rather crude and inaccurate. However is was good enough to keep track of day to day life. It consisted of 18 months of 20 days each. This is followed by 5 nameless days called the Wayeb'. This gives us a calendar of 365 days. [(18 × 20) + 5 = 365] The Mayans new that the solar year was actually 364¼ days long, but they considered the count of 365 to be sufficient. The names of the months are: Pop, Wo, Sip, Sotz', Sek, Xul, Yaxk'in, Mol, Ch'en, Yax, Sac, Keh, Mak K'ank'in, Muwan, Pax, K'ayab', and Kumk'u. This is followed by the 5 days of Wayeb'. Example of how the dates are recorded: 0 Pop ← The 1st day of the year, and yes you do start with zero!Like the tzolk'in calender, the haab' calender was represented by a combination of two symbols. Also like the tzolk'in, the haab' calender made no attempt to identify the year. However by using the tzolk'in and haab' calenders together. You come of with a unique combination of dates that repeats exactly every 52 years. A date like 11 Chuwen 4 Sip will only occur every 52 years. Given that the average life expectancy was about 35, this was fine for every event within a persons expected life. The period of 52 years is called a Calendar Round. While the Calendar Round system, might be fine for day to day life, it was useless for recording the history of the kings, empire, and gods. For that you need something much more precise. That is were the Long Count Calender comes into play. (to be continued...) |
End of the Mayan Calender: Part IV
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The Mesoamerican Long Count Calender (hehe this is the one that causes all of the dire predictions) This calender is very accurate and absolute, but it is complicated. It will make your head hurt. No wonder it causes such confusion. To start with this calender uses a vigesimal (base-20) number system. Where the Arabic number system we all know and love, uses base-10 based on the ten fingers. The Mesoamerican number system uses all of your fingers and toes. Each digit has a symbol that corresponds to a number between 0 and 19. To complicate matter not all digits are base 20. The 2nd digit is base 18 and the 5th only goes to 13 (except under special conditions). For the recording of important events the Mayans used a sequence of 5 digits to indicate a precise date Example: 12.19.15.5.18 → May 14, 2008 (yesterday)Each digit is given a name (listed right to left) 1st K'in → 1 dayIf you count to the last available number you get the following date: 12.19.19.17.19 → December 20, 2012 :eek: OMG the end is near! Well not quite. There is another trick you need to know. The five digit date seen in many Mesoamerican writings is an abbreviation. YEP! You heard me it is an abbreviation. Just like with the Arabic number system it doesn't stop at 5 digits. You simply add another digit to the number. This has already been done, they just don't write it all of the time. In fact the Mayan writings have left of most of the date. This is the same as we sometimes leave of the century of our dates, saying '92 instead of 1992 How do we know this? Simple they wrote it down. In many writings that speak of the far distant past, as well of predictions of the future, then they use a 9, 13, or 20 digit systems. An example of this is the inscription on the temple stairway at Yaxchilan, with date of 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.9.15.13.6.9. This means the temple was dedicated on March 15, 761. We also have examples of predictions that will occur in the far distant future. In the year 4772 there is to be a grand celebration in honor of the accession of King Pacal. In fact we have dates of prediction as far as 400 million years from now, and as far back as 90 million. So under the full 13 digit system: Example: 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.12.19.15.5.19 → May 15, 2008 Example: 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.12.19.19.17.19 → December 20, 2012 (the end of the world :mtongue:) Example: 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.14.0.0.0.0.0 → December 21, 2012 (the day after! :D :D) So what does this mean? If it's not the end of the world, then what is it? The Mayans made it is very clear, that they did not believe that the 2012 date was the end of world. however they did believe this to be an important date. It is one to be celebrated! According to the Mayan texts the date of 12.0.0.0.0 marks the beginning of the 4th age of man and marks the beginning of his dominion on the Earth. The first 3 ages were under the dominion of the gods. This corresponds to the date August 11, 3114 BCE. The date of 12.19.19.17.19 marks the beginning of the new age (Piktun). So December 20, 2012 is not the end, but the beginning of man's 5th age. OK so now your head hurts! :mad: I don't blame you, I have a fair grasp of the system and my head hurts too. If you have any questions please feel free to ask! |
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Wow Odin! That's pretty awesome that you have all that down. Thanks for explaining it to us. My head doesn't hurt at all.:D It was very interesting.
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Odin you were right my head does hurt a bit but thats just because of too many number configuerations, but NightChilde25 is right it is interesting
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I KNOW ill probably be seen as stupid for believing this but i actually believe a planet will show up behind the sun in 2012. they set up cameras just recently around the sun and they say by 2011 it should reach all the way around the sun.
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If Sarah Palin is elected president in 2012, then I will believe the world is at an end.
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I will believe it when it happens and if they are right i dont think im going to have enough time to actually realize it so its all good.
Im as scared of 2012 as i was of the 2k bug:cool: |
People should educate themselves and read more about the mayan calendar before jumping to this 2012 doomsday crap. The Mayan believed that they wouldn't be destroyed and would keep living in 52 year cycles if they kept giving sacrifices to the gods. So why aren't we dead yet when nobody hasn't been sacrificing in a long long time? The long count calendar was just used to measure time longer than 52 years.
People now believe in this 2012 thing just because a man named José Argüelles said that. He isn't even using the original calendar to calculate the date. A quote from Wikipedia: "Although Argüelles states that his tools and calendar are clearly not a Mayan calendar, much criticism of it focuses on the fact that his works remain completely unsupported by any professional Mayanist scholar. Amongst many criticisms leveled at it, it is pointed out that the interpretation merely co-opts an ancient tradition by recasting it in New Age terms, unknown, unused and undocumented among the Maya." |
Ah 2012, i do love this kinda stuff...it allows me to talk X amounts of crap and celebrate the end of mankind etc..i think it's all bull, but i'm a non believer with most thing unless i see them happen. Similar to that Y2K thing that never happened.
apparently the earth is going to shift it's axis. Hindu's believe mankind is doomed after the 4th age, i'm pretty sure other religions believe somethning similar to. |
Anyone belives planet X ( Niburu) exist?
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but um yeah, I dont believe in that garbage, one day the earth shall die but no one has correctly predicted this date thus far, we have no idea when apocalypse shall be near, but Im guessing not any time soon. Just ignore prophecies please. Its just another type of fear mongering, look how everyone was afraid in 2000. lmao |
ooooo...scary.
But not good enought to make me feel Paranoid. (almost thought this thread was the band 12012) |
Like we were all supposed to die in 1989, and then in 1990, and then in 1999, and then in 2000, and then in 2001?
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now i've said that are you going to hide in your house all day tomorrow? it's all a load of rubbish. ignore it. |L.p. |
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Isn't the correct date. 23 / 12 / 2012.. it's my birthday lol xD
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lol. Happy Birthday. I hope you don't die.
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yeah...if u beleive it ur a complete dumbass...even moreso than the person who started the damn thing(...which was by the way a hallucinating maniac)
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Yes, The person who started it sounds like he/she is afraid to die.
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you can't prove that it won't happend xD
btw. do anyone belive that humanity came from another planet? |
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Mayan Civilization 2012 Doomsday Prediction its hard not to notice ancient civilization's mostly had a crazy sense of reality, maybe if they sacraficed some more humsnas we would have more time till doomsday jk^.^ |
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