There is also a theory that eskimos will buy driers and we all will drown :)

umm... the whole 2012 thing? yeah, you should have seen our school when people heard about that!! My friend literally freaked. So did most the kids. *Frowns*

I don't like how people make up these stupid lies how the world is going to end in a few years just so people are scared! jeez. I mean, last yr, in 2008, I heard that we were all going to die in 2009. did we? NO! *Knocks on wood*

SO.... I wouldn't believe this at all.

We are still in 2009, maybe it will come soon :D

oh I'm not claiming it to be a total lie. don worry about that. And actually, because of the whole outburst at my school, we had to do A LOT of research on it.

For example, some scientists say it's because of the earths' gravitational pull with the sun and the moon. There is another theory that the earth is going to get hit with this asteroid that's "supposedly" close to the earth.

But I have another thing that I just remembered. Didn't the whole world freak out in 1999 when it was almost 2000? I mean, humans naturally worry about things. And it's a good thing we do.

If something bad does happen this year, or in 2012, I can only hope that it doesn't inpact the earth badly. Sorry if I've offended anyone somehow. I don't mean to.

i do and dont believe it, it always a possiblity, but i hope the whole world doesnt die, i dont want to die so soon, i havent even done everything i wanted too.

You are wrong. 2000 was backed up by freaking religious people. NASA itself said that in 2012 the sun will have a powerful solar flare. And it's not because of the earth and moon gravitational pull.

You see, we believe the earth revolves around the sun. While it's correct, the reasonw hy it does is because the center of the gravitational pull between the earth and the sun, is almost the center of the sun (due to its large size compared to us). If you take Jupiter, the center of the gravitational pull is out of the Sun, because Jupiter is bigger than us. This way, both Jupiter and the Sun rotate around that point, even though Jupiter rotates a lot more. Same goes for Saturn.

In 2012, it is predicted that Saturn and Jupiter will be in both opposite sides of the Sun, and the earth will be in such a position to be exposed to solar flares caused by this. Now to solar flares. It all depends how powerful they are. We've never seen a powerful solar flare to destroy earth, but we've seen a somewhat powerful flare that killed the electricity of a whole city (look up in Google). If the 2012 is powerful enough (the predictions say yes), it will cause electricity problems, pole shifts... batteries won't work... if it is more powerful than that, it will burn everybody (though it all depends how our atmosphere will be able to resist it, which has been quite good till now).

Quite good? Global warming made sure that our atmosphere was depleted. If what the Aztecs predicted is true, then we're going out in a big bang. LITERALLY!!

Aztecs? I thought it was Mayan's calendar. Also they predicted nothing, the calendar just ends, you're just pulling crap from your head now.

The sun will explode, that is a certified death but it's damn far in the future. Just to make sure there will be an end to Earth.

I can't believe you posted something useless to this post... oh wait that is normal.

I'm not pulling crap from my head, thank you very much. If the calendar ends, that sounds like they must have predicted something bad is going to happen that year. You :mad:

Don't waste your time waiting for nothing to happen lol.
2012 myth
I'll see you guys in 2013.

Why? It's no different from someone new looking at our calendar and seeing that it ends on Dec. 31st. Woahhh something terrible's gonna happen then! Nope. Us, like the Aztecs, had no apoloclypse predictions within our calendars. They just had longer spanning calendars, eons, that they couldn't be bothered to keep working out where they would end indefinitely. So they just made an arbitrary time for this one to end. They weren't using any sophisticated science to work this stuff out. It would have been one guy using crude astronomy and writing down a number based on what he felt like.

People Spread

2012: From the Mayan Elders Themselves

I just finished watching a fascinating video interview with a guy who has spent much of his last 35 years with indigenous people around the world. His name is Drunvalo Melchizedek. His take on 2012 is different from many others: he says no one has yet gotten the story right because they haven’t asked the Mayans themselves. He’s met with the Mayan Elders (as well as Hopi Elders who share nearly identical prophecies).

Here’s what Drunvalo Melchizedek has to say.

1] Although Dec 21, 2012 is the date of the end of the age in the Mayan calendar it does not mean anything spectacular is going to happen on that exact date.

2] The Mayan elders say the calender foretells Earth changes and changes in consciousness AND that they occur within a seven-year period of time around 2012.

3] When does (did) the seven-year period start? The Hopis’ prophecy stated the major changes would start when a ”large blue star” appears.

4] On October 24, 2007 “Comet 17P/Holmes (pictured above) shocked astronomers on Oct. 24, 2007, with a spectacular eruption. In less than 24 hours, the 17th magnitude comet brightened by a factor of nearly a million, becoming a naked-eye object in the evening sky. By mid-November the expanding comet was the largest object in the solar system–bigger even than the Sun.

5] Hopi and Mayan Elders met and agreed Comet Holmes was the star foretold in their prophecies. The seven year period has begun.

6] What is the biggest change in this seven years? A magnetic pole shift followed shortly by a physical pole shift. A physical pole shift is what destroyed Atlantis 13,000 years ago. Similarly, this would be a “big deal” today. Certainly it would qualify as Yogananda’s “you have no idea what a catastrophe is coming” event.

7] The Hopis are joining with other indigenous peoples in Arizona in April 2009 to perform a sacred welcoming ceremony for our space ancestors.

8] The Mayan Elders are currently writing a book to set the record straight on the Mayan calandar/prophecies.

URL works fine?

I don't have time to wait and see if every random prediction comes true. I'd rather spend my time more wisely and concern myself over actual, provable predictions. Just because people on the internet tell you to worry about something, doesn't mean you have to take them seriously.

The misunderstanding comes from people not understanding the meaning of ancient calendars, but also, more fundamentally, thinking that people thousands of years ago could make any kind of accurate prediction of events so far in the future when contemporaries can barely do this over short periods of time.

Thanks for telling me that what I said was my opinion. What you just said was also your opinion. You're welcome.

Retro-fitting.

I would have felt better if no one started talking about it at all. U.U

Believe me. There's no reason to worry. The reason this kinda story makes the rounds, especially on the internet, is because it's scary. You don't get viral internet fads about how fascinating and complex Mayan culture was. You just get them about how these creepy, wise seeming ancient people said you're gonna die in a terrifying fashion.

Think skeptically and you'll be able to relax.

As someone just showed, the apocalyptic angle wasn't necessarily the intention of the Mayans, and just exploded on the internet.

I don't think either of us know the details of these things particularly well. Please listen to these explanations by someone who has researched the topic. If you don't believe him then that's that, but at least go over some research. Maybe follow some citations on the Wiki page at least.

Skeptoid:
2012
Nostradamus
(You can listen to him read his research as well)

Sorry if you didn't notice. I said to follow the citations in the Wiki entry. I agree you can't just read what's directly on the Wiki for sensitive information. If the citations are from reputable sources then it's fine, just read those.

I also linked you to the Skeptoid.com guy's personal research which is excellent. Please read or listen to his episodes on these topics, they're quite short and entertaining.

I don't want to argue about something I have limited knowledge of, so I won't say anything else about the details. However, I stick to my previous, more general argument: when people make predictions today, with all the modern tools they still often get things wrong. How can people thousands of years ago, using crude astronomy, make a prediction that is even irrelevant to astronomy? This is a argument from faith in ancient peoples, or long traditions. Even if they did mean that 2012 would be an apocalypse, there's not a single reason to believe them.

If you care about human civilisation, listen to contemporary thinkers talking about relevant data like water levels, climate, food shortages, populations etc, not ancient people who had no idea what modern society would be like and worshiped astral bodies.

i know but still. u.u

its scary hearing about it and people talking.

Hope this site can help
The Doomsday List
It's a list of past failed (obviously) doomsday predictions. Don't let yourself get scared by every single stupid prediction. There'll be more after 2012, that's a guaranteed prediction! Get some perspective. :vsign:

u.u i will look at that when i think im ready to click and read.

right now i should get some sleep been really sick. TT~TT

not sure about it but if it happen i dont think that
......(all world will diseapr)

I don't think the ancient Mayans have the "end-of-the-world" thought in their cultures when their beliefs are akin to nature's cycle.

FOXNews.com - Powerful Solar Storm Could Shut Down U.S. for Months - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News

To those who don't believe. You can make more research, there is one page at Nasa's site, but I can't seem to load it. There have been solar flares before. The last one killed a whole city's electricity. The next solar maximum in 2012 is expected to kill the whole planet's, and if it's powerful enough it can shift poles... and goodbye electricity.

Ask yourself why the maximum solar flare coincides with the end of the Mayan calendar?

I'm not too sure...

I don't worry about it, though. Look at all these "World is going to end" that never happened. This is just one of them.

I Dreamed To Go To The Moon Since That Time

Relief sets in.

It coincides with the same year as my birthday as well. Why does it make any difference? If it was 2013 someone would find something vaguely significant to correlate it with.

Typically people that want fantastic things to happen will dig and dig to find any hint that it will happen, ignoring the fact that if you seriously want to hypothesise something happening that is unlikely, you have to bring forward evidence that is beyond suggestive.

Elvis is alive. Why else would people keep talking about him??
The world will end in 2012. Why else would the maximum solar flare match up with the Mayan's end of eon??
Nessy exists! How else do you explain all of those similar looking photos??

These are all purely suggestive. No reliable basis for actually believing that something will happen/exists. More. Evidence. Needed.