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Debi 05-09-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 712916)
That is just an opinion based on modern culture. There was nothing wrong with them. Look hard enough, you'll see it is just human nature. Sometimes people just want to cut out hearts and eat them, so what?

Let me ask you this: is it in any way possible that every Aztec or Mayan was simply born crazy?

Human sacrifice to satisfy some supposed gods, you call that human nature ?

I call that societal ill-effects.

Actually I re-read it and what you said make no sense.

What is it that you define as human nature anyway ?

Ronin4hire 05-09-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 712890)
I would not say "Spartan" way of thinking. But yes, it is not the usual run-of-the-mill stuff.

Still, are you trying to say I'm crazy because my ideals are more comparable to lost cultures rather than modern ones? So by your standards, all these old civilizations were simply psychopathic people, right? Samurai, Spartans, Mongols, Vikings, a bunch of loones, right? But that only shows your own inability to reason.

Nice try... but actually I call you a psychopath because you seem to embrace the whole "might makes right" mentality as legitimate from an ethical perspective.

People of the past were simply a product of their time...

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 712890)
If someone claims an entire civilization is crazy, then that person clearly has an inability to comprehend. I mean, the chances of everyone in that civilization being crazy is impossible. So you've got the problem, Ronin. I take comfort knowing I'm sane in the fact that in so many ways, I am not alone. I'm natural.

There was nothing wrong when I said most modern people wont cope with the sudden collapse of this civilization, and it will be a disaster. You think I'm crazy for saying the truth?

Get a life.

I never claimed entire civilisations were crazy. Just you.

Furthermore when you say things like

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The weakness that has been allowed to thrive in modern society I am sure will make for a foul stench of death and failure when that time does come.
and

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natural selection is failing in the human species. In a more natural world, say 10,000 BC, certain characters failed and weak people died, thus only strong genes were passed on. It is not so anymore, with any pathetic moron able to survive in this society.

If you have no will or ability to fight, Ronin, then I doubt you'd fare so well in a natural world. So perhaps you're a biological failure?
your contempt for society and your preoccupation with strength and the submission and decimation of what you percieve to be the weak show through.

In my opinion this earns you the tag psychopath... and before you go crying about name calling...

let me educate you

WordNet Search - 3.0
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S: (n) sociopath, psychopath (someone with a sociopathic personality; a person with an antisocial personality disorder (`psychopath' was once widely used but has now been superseded by `sociopath'))

coldhazard 05-09-2009 04:23 PM

back on topic;
Ninjas rule

SaintKat 05-09-2009 06:15 PM

^ /signed

Sorry Samurai you guys are awesome and all but I really like the whole sneaky sneaky get you in the dark thing.
:vsign:

pumpum 05-09-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintKat (Post 713361)
^ /signed

Sorry Samurai you guys are awesome and all but I really like the whole sneaky sneaky get you in the dark thing.
:vsign:

LMAO thats such a nice way to desribe an asassin :D

SaintKat 05-09-2009 09:37 PM

Haha, it's true though!
:D

Debi 05-10-2009 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713759)
Ronin, you're full of it. From what I read on this forum, my opinions are usually more popular than yours, and you're less popular here.

HAHAHAHA !

FAIL!

Debi 05-10-2009 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713811)
What would you know, you've only been here a couple of weeks. Moron.

Hahaha, dude, you are cracking me up !

You said "my opinions are usually more popular than yours" to defend your argumentation, which is totally lame. But even worst! You add to your own lameness by saying I couldnt know because I only been there for a couple of weeks !

Keep up the good work dude ! :vsign:

Reavyn 05-10-2009 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713759)
Ronin, you're full of it. From what I read on this forum, my opinions are usually more popular than yours, and you're less popular here.

The fact that you had to result to trying to pull a popularity card in this discussion means you have lost the debate. He may have resulted to name calling, but he did back up his assumptions quite well, whether or not they were right. This is not the first time you lost your temper so easily. Just to be clear. I never once said you like to rape people. Just because someone thinks something is okay does not mean that they themselves do it. And you may want to take your own advice and try to stay away from the name calling.

ozkai 05-10-2009 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713821)
What the fuck is up with the newbies these days?

And how would you know how many firends I've made over the last couple of years on this forum? You HAVE only been here for a blink of an eye compaired to me. You don't know shit.

Tenchu - I agree with the cospaly photos but your language, PLEASE:mad:

ozkai 05-10-2009 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713826)
I hate trolls. This is what happens when they are not banned. Cannot control language when faced with stupidity.

I'm not complaining about your opinions in your posts, just try to use clean words.

Your language is clearly disgusting!

Debi 05-10-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713821)
What the fuck is up with the newbies these days?

Even you claimed you were on my side previous in this thread, so... you're sounding kind of hollow to me.

And how would you know how many firends I've made over the last couple of years on this forum? You HAVE only been here for a blink of an eye compaired to me. You don't know shit.

Man, you really understand nothing, do you ?

The fact I've been here fore 24 minutes or 30 years is totally irrelevant.

The fact you have shitloads of friends don't make your opinion better in NO WAY.

And congrats for being here for a VERY long time, that really make you someone awesome ! I wish I could be hot like you.. bitch.

Reavyn 05-10-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713831)
Correctly, you should have said "I find your language usage disgusting". I don't think you're qualified to speak for us all.

2.1 Unnecessary and uncensored profanity is highly discouraged and may be edited or removed by a mod or admin. Excessive profanity may lead to other sanctions.

Debi 05-10-2009 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713842)
It doesn't make my opinion better, it just means I've been here long enough to actually form an opinion on the subject...

I actually existed before coming on this forums for your information.
I just didn't appeared from thin air in the last month you know.

I actually had an opinion way before joining this place.

Come on man, get back on track, you are making a fool of yourself right now.

Reavyn 05-10-2009 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713847)
I actually existed before coming on this forums for your information.
I just didn't appeared from thin air in the last month you know.

I actually had an opinion way before joining this place.

Come on man, get back on track, you are making a fool of yourself right now.

Yes, we should all get back to the main topic at hand. As it stands now, we are all breaking the rules by taking part in this little hissy fit. I apologize for helping it get off topic.

So.....Ninja or Samurai?:D

Debi 05-10-2009 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713861)
We're talking about the relationship between me, Ronin, and other long term forum members in a long standing community; one which you have no place in. You cannot comment intelligently on something you know nothing about, so don't...

You just made that up.
Actually you are simply being called a psychopath (which I think you are) and trying to defend yourself.
Don't make it sound more deep than it is really.

Debi 05-10-2009 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713879)
What the fuck? Have you read any of these posts?

You don't even know what is going on here, do you? I think you're more mentally challenged than me...

Unfortunately yeah, I've read the whole thread so far.

Don't pretend the topic is more deep than it is. You just have a simple word fight, no need to be on this site for centuries to figure out exactly what is going on.

You came up with that "I'm more popular than you are" from nowhere.

ozkai 05-10-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713879)
What the fuck? Have you read any of these posts?

You don't even know what is going on here, do you? I think you're more mentally challenged than me...

can you keep on topic and cut the fowl language!

ozkai 05-10-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713998)
Derailment is the way of all threads. This was never a serious discussion, anyway. I havn't "ruined" anything.

I stop bad words when people stop trolling.

bad words doesn't stop trolling, it makes it worse!

Ronin4hire 05-10-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 714001)
But it makes me feel better.

Awww... Tenchu "the warrior" needs a hug.... haha :mtongue:

I have nothing further to add... what I was going to say in response has been said.

Salvanas 05-10-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713889)
Unfortunately yeah, I've read the whole thread so far.

Don't pretend the topic is more deep than it is. You just have a simple word fight, no need to be on this site for centuries to figure out exactly what is going on.

You came up with that "I'm more popular than you are" from nowhere.

Actually, sorry mate. But Tenchu does have a point. Whereas you don't need to be on here for long to form an opinion, there is a certain thing going on which you don't understand.

It's much more deep than a simple word fight. Ronin's and Tenchu's hatred for each other run deep. Every discussion, they have a heated argument, and over the many months, it's turned into a deep hatred for each other. Whatever they say. The people that have been here for a while, knows. Sadly, you wouldn't cause you haven't been for for long.

You seem like an intelligent person, so I recommend not getting mixed up in this any longer. You've delved into a pool, thinking you know what it's about, but having no idea what you've met with.

Your opinions are good. But talking about the relationship between Ronin and Tenchu, you don't know what's going on.

ozkai 05-10-2009 12:08 PM

Is she a Ninja or Samurai or a little bit of both?

Ronin4hire 05-10-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 714013)
Actually, sorry mate. But Tenchu does have a point. Whereas you don't need to be on here for long to form an opinion, there is a certain thing going on which you don't understand.

It's much more deep than a simple word fight. Ronin's and Tenchu's hatred for each other run deep. Every discussion, they have a heated argument, and over the many months, it's turned into a deep hatred for each other. Whatever they say. The people that have been here for a while, knows. Sadly, you wouldn't cause you haven't been for for long.

You seem like an intelligent person, so I recommend not getting mixed up in this any longer. You've delved into a pool, thinking you know what it's about, but having no idea what you've met with.

Your opinions are good. But talking about the relationship between Ronin and Tenchu, you don't know what's going on.

Lol... how patronising... "You seem like an intelligent fellow.. BUT"

Anyway... deep hatred is a bit much. My opinions of Tenchu are very matter of fact opinions.

But regardless.. I think Debi was referring to the fact that our personality clash in itself is irrelevant and that Tenchu is retarded for bringing it up in the first place.

iPhantom 05-10-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713759)
Ronin, you're full of it. From what I read on this forum, my opinions are usually more popular than yours, and you're less popular here.

Wow, and you say Ronin is full of himself? Then you brag how someone is not as old as you in this forums.

Who cares if you're popular anyway.

komitsuki 05-10-2009 01:06 PM


Salvanas 05-10-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 714032)
Lol... how patronising... "You seem like an intelligent fellow.. BUT"

Anyway... deep hatred is a bit much. My opinions of Tenchu are very matter of fact opinions.

But regardless.. I think Debi was referring to the fact that our personality clash in itself is irrelevant and that Tenchu is retarded for bringing it up in the first place.

Actually Ronin, I used "You seem like an intelligent person, SO..." They are two different things. I was not patronising him, nor was I calling him stupid.

Deep hatred is an extreme opinion. Look, I have quarrel with neither of you, and I respect both your opinions. But it's a pretty much known fact that you two hate each other.

That's fine. I was only referring to the bolded part in Debi's post. I wasn't commenting on the whole argument or discussion.

rison 05-10-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 714017)
Is she a Ninja or Samurai or a little bit of both?

A ninja, that she is and a Sexy one INDEED.

kMal 05-10-2009 10:05 PM

I think she don't know what she is trying to be.

iPhantom 05-10-2009 10:07 PM

She can be anything she wants I'd still tap her.

rison 05-10-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 713998)
Derailment is the way of all threads. This was never a serious discussion, anyway. I havn't "ruined" anything.

I stop bad words when people stop trolling.


yeah I noticed that this thread has been derailed for the past 5 pages because you've been tenacious to saying incoherent bullshit.I also noticed you derailed the thread on reincarnation....seem you enjoy chaos.

I'll have to agreed with Ronin on how anti-social you are and I dont have to be here for a year and more to know whats is going on, since obviously you still do the same annoying things known to you.

Debi 05-11-2009 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 714538)
Fu*k you're full of it. Mention the word "Warrior" and you giggle like a 10 year old schoolgirl getting tickled up the skirt.

Seriously, Ronin. Former Infantry, professional kick boxer, big fan of Bushido. And now what am I doing in Thailand? I'm building a Muay Thai training camp! It should be up and running early next year.

What other word do you really think suits me?

Actually, I forgive Ronin every time... he just has trouble dealing with things...

Can you please list those facts in basic dot points for me. I want to see what they are...

Derailed? You religous trolls derailed it. Don't blame me. If I answer th OPs question directly then that is not trolling, that is called "posting". It is not my fault if you don't like the answer yourself and decided to pick a fight for it.

As for antisocial... I fail to see that at all when I voluntarily engage in a social forum. It isn't my fault if other people can't control themselves.

Vanity... definitely my favorite sin !

Debi 05-11-2009 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 714546)
You're trolling again.

You seems to use this word pretty often, what does it mean anyway ?

You really sound like the typical self-lover.
You are really proud of your achievements, arent you ?

Debi 05-11-2009 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 714561)
First people will question everything about me, then they accuse me of self inflation when I answer...

A classic image of a troll is the beast hiding under a bridge with a club waiting to ambush or lure people into its trap.

A forum troll is someone who does a similar thing; they drop irrelevant statements that have no effect other than to aggrovate another forum member. I.e. luring them into a trap. The fun starts when after they drop those words, then they try and say you're over reacting with name calling and stuff. All that is irrelevant when the troll started it.

You trolled me several times. Just saying things you know will piss me off. It is not healthy for the atmosphere.

Nobody asked you to enumerate all your fighting capabilities, you did it all by yourself.

Oh, I think it's impressive. You could surely knock me down pretty easily. One kick in the face *bang* I'd be on the floor.

Isn't it what you like to hear ? Isn't it what you want people to think ?

Just like in this thread
http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...believe-5.html

"You look like 15 but hey! look at me, check how I look like a badass in my muay thai outfit!"

You feed from your own pride, it make you feel superior to the others, isn't it ?

You don't have to say I'm right, I know I am.

It isn't even insulting.

SaintKat 05-11-2009 06:36 AM

/yoink

This thread is now about Ninjas vs. Samurai
:mtongue:

Seriously where are you honourable samurai fellows I want to sneak up on you.
:cool:

Debi 05-11-2009 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 714571)
Trolling again.

Ronin keeps laughing at me because I use the word "Warrior". I asked him what the word means, if it is not correct definition for who I am. Once again, this does not involve you.

When someone insults me, I have the right to defend myself. Why not?

I never tried to big name myself, nor talk up things that arn't real. You only got that impression. Why?

The moment someone says "Warrior", why do you feel challenged, as though the slightest martial or physical acheivment is a threat to you or something? That is how Ronin is, and you seem the same.

As for me saying the kid looked not a day older than 15; perhaps he should have thought twice about saying that when he has pictures of children in his avatar? It isn't my fault. He trolled me, and look what he got. So what?

Seriously, get a life.

This could go endlessly if I wanted to, because vain people never give up.
I'll never see any sign of back down anyway. You will always find an argument to go over the top because opinions can be made up pretty easily.
It's no maths.

So I rest my case !

During this time I'll follow your very pertinent suggestion and go get a life.
It's about time I do.... damn! 25 and still lifeless, what was I thinking ?

SaintKat 05-11-2009 08:11 AM

You were thinking same thing as me Debi:
"Life is grand"
:vsign:

Ronin4hire 05-11-2009 09:31 AM

Lol... Tenchu misuses the word troll a lot.

The general use of the term troll is someone who says inflammatory things for the sole reason to get a reaction. Most of us have very real and stated objections to the things you say Tenchu.

PS- Tenchu... we do not live in feudal times anymore... warrior isn't really an accurate description for anyone.... even a modern day soldier in a professional army. THAT'S why I laugh at you.

Oh and by the way...Muay Thai is not a tool of war in this day and age... it is simply a sport so get over yourself.

Anyway... I'm getting tired of this too.

I'm out.

ozkai 05-11-2009 11:15 AM

let's start again:


kMal 05-11-2009 11:29 AM

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ozkai 05-11-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kMal (Post 714661)
Yes let's do that:

is the blood left your drawing?


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