Originally Posted by Debi (Post 710065)

hahaha ! I don't know your tolerance to jokes yet so I will just say this :


watch your butt because you are pretty near to get it slapped real hard ! :D

Originally Posted by Pexster (Post 710070)

Originally Posted by Debi (Post 710071)

Annoyed ? Nah. I'm pretty easy-going.

You should seen how far this thread went from the original topic.
At one point we were arguing about if rape was part of the human nature >.<`
Go figure....

Originally Posted by 8werner8 (Post 710069)

Thanks for the links. That was interesting. :cool:

Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 710402)

All animals, beasts, insects, birds, everyone, they all have soething special about them. We're outdone in many ways, you know.

Koalas rape every night... horid things.

The point is it does happen. What you're saying is similar to saying wolves eating reindeer is not natural coz the reindeer does not like it and feels a little violated... right... the reindeer needs a counseller...

What is morallity when it comes to nature, Ronin?

Is it moral to skin an animal and shred its flesh and eat it?

You may be right, everything we do we almost always do so rationally, so rationallity may be the only real true human nature. Yet that does not mean if someone uses their brain to perform what you'd call immoral work that they are inhumane and unnatural.

It may be natural to do whatever, so long as it is a choice.

This reminds me of another conversation I had with someone. I was calling him a pussy coz he reckoned it was better to walk away from an argument than let it break into violence. Of course, I thought anyone who is rude needs a good thwacking. But in the end, I said it is okay to walk away, so long as you choose to do so from real choice, and not because you're afraid. If you walk away, maybe you are still a strong man, so long as the thought of standing your ground was actually plausible.

I guess it is adaption, Ronin. If the time comes where you have to be the same like me in order to survive, and you cannot, then you are a failure. But what you do when choice really does exist is your decision.

Being smart has been important for people. But every ounce of muscle we shed as we evolved further from apes we replaced with solid steel and did the exact same things.

I, after studying history, believe all great civilizations come to an end eventually. Why should ours be any different? The weakness that has been allowed to thrive in modern society I am sure will make for a foul stench of death and failure when that time does come.

Originally Posted by SaintKat (Post 710432)

Wait, when did this thread go from Ninja vs. Samurai to rape. Someone give me a TLDR summary :confused: .

Originally Posted by SaintKat (Post 710439)

Ah well, I couldn't decide between the two anyway. I like ninja's sneakiness and samurai's code of honour. Maybe we could create an amoral super-hybrid.
:D

Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 710447)

Damn you're a moron. Did I say I'd rape anyone?

Try telling a koala or a duck his method of reproduction is wrong, and he should instead consider extinction.

Don't try and play the sympathy rape card with me. I know a rape victim, also, I know how it can affect people. We're just talking about nature, but, harden up.

Originally Posted by SaintKat (Post 710458)

About that hybrid, anyone else with mad drawing skills wanna sketch us a concept, eh eh?

Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 710402)

It may be natural to do whatever, so long as it is a choice.

This reminds me of another conversation I had with someone. I was calling him a pussy coz he reckoned it was better to walk away from an argument than let it break into violence. Of course, I thought anyone who is rude needs a good thwacking. But in the end, I said it is okay to walk away, so long as you choose to do so from real choice, and not because you're afraid. If you walk away, maybe you are still a strong man, so long as the thought of standing your ground was actually plausible.

I guess it is adaption, Ronin. If the time comes where you have to be the same like me in order to survive, and you cannot, then you are a failure. But what you do when choice really does exist is your decision.

Being smart has been important for people. But every ounce of muscle we shed as we evolved further from apes we replaced with solid steel and did the exact same things.

I, after studying history, believe all great civilizations come to an end eventually. Why should ours be any different? The weakness that has been allowed to thrive in modern society I am sure will make for a foul stench of death and failure when that time does come.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 710758)

Do you even remember the original argument?

You were saying that violence is part of human nature. I said that it isn't because we can reason either way.

Nothing there addresses what I said.

Also... you're a psychopath. The part I bolded is why.

You speak like a fundamentalist muslim but instead it seems you yearn for a Spartan society rather than a Islamic one.

You call yourself a "warrior"... but a "warrior's" role in a societal context is to protect it not to hold contempt towards it. In terms of survival your anti-social ideals make you the weak one in terms of survivability.

No you're not a "warrior"... you're an outcast. Outcasts like you survive because you're irrelevant not because you're strong.

Originally Posted by kMal (Post 710809)

Let us not judge people on this forum now. We do not actually know each other. To call someone a psychopath and an outcast is a bit harsh man. Chill out.

Originally Posted by Reavyn (Post 710424)

It's quite obvious that you are not going to be able to grasp the fact that be it insect, animal, or human, rape is wrong. So I'm just going to walk away from the discussion because I left the last Japanese website I went to cause kids could not stop acting like it was okay to act like rape was just a game and okay. I know someone who has been raped. I do not like it at all. So, enjoy thinking that rape is okay.

Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 711149)

Glad to see the JF troll has still got his club.

Ronin, if violence is not a part of human nature, because reason is the true part, then niether is peace a part of human nature. So long as you agree that, then I'll let it rest.

Why don't you cut the personal attacks? Are you not smart/polite enough to hold a proper and civil conversation without so quickly turning to insults? Sounds to me like I'm not the one with social hick ups.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 710915)

I'm judging him on what he's saying. Nothing else.

Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 711444)

Sorry Ronin but you seem to be judging evryone on the forum!

Don't take it all so personally and try to have some fun:vsign:

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 712386)

I'm sorry... but if someone says something stupid I'm going to call them out on it. It's my style and I'm not going to change.

Originally Posted by DarkGrave (Post 712779)

This is like the age old question of, egg or chicken, ninja's or pirates, in the end it is all up to you to make your own decision. In my eyes, samurai's go about killing in a respectful manner, however there are always those that don't follow ways and do things deemed unrighteous.

Ninja's don't really care and do it without being seen or caught. They both are cool in my book. The one who would win, is probably a ninja. They do surprise attacks, while samurai's do head on attacks.

Originally Posted by Debi (Post 712774)

Bullshit, it just prove your incapacity to have a civilized argument.
Calling people names only because you disaprove his opinion when it's obvious his ideas risk to be different from yours considering you are actually arguing is not only childish, it's despitful.

Oh but according to you own justification, being childish and despitful is your style, so I guess we should forgive you for that.

*if you have one once of judgment you will figure the double irony there*

Originally Posted by Debi (Post 712784)

But here on JF we don't do things halfway. To back up the argumentation if samurai are really honorable, you have to figure out if rape is part of human nature. Don't ask why, just answer the goddamn question :vsign:

Originally Posted by Debi (Post 712774)

Bullshit, it just prove your incapacity to have a civilized argument.
Calling people names only because you disaprove his opinion when it's obvious his ideas risk to be different from yours considering you are actually arguing is not only childish, it's despitful.

Oh but according to you own justification, being childish and despitful is your style, so I guess we should forgive you for that.


*if you have one once of judgment you will figure the double irony there*

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 712823)

My incapacity to have a civilised discussion?

Anyway... did we or did we not conclude our exchange earlier without resorting to name calling?

Tenchu is a psychopath because he has a very Spartan way of thinking and his contempt for society that he regularly shows. That's my opinion. Whether you believe that's childish or not... to me it's a very reasoned conclusion I've come to.

Originally Posted by Debi (Post 712825)

Good, now I'm pretty sure we can move on.

Back on the topic about ninja and samurai and not if warfare and rape is part of human nature or not.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 712833)

Go **** yourself.... whatever direction people decide to take discussions is not up to you.

Originally Posted by rison (Post 712837)

Regulate your agressiveness.

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 712833)

Go **** yourself.... whatever direction people decide to take discussions is not up to you.

Originally Posted by Debi (Post 712846)

HAHAHA!

So much pride.

Which is kinda lame when it's expressed over the internet.

Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 712853)

stop going off topic, if you wanna argue use PM's please

your arguments are very annoying for me, and probably others

Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 712890)

Still, are you trying to say I'm crazy because my ideals are more comparable to lost cultures rather than modern ones? So by your standards, all these old civilizations were simply psychopathic people, right? Samurai, Spartans, Mongols, Vikings, a bunch of loones, right? But that only shows your own inability to reason.

Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 712916)

That is just an opinion based on modern culture. There was nothing wrong with them. Look hard enough, you'll see it is just human nature. Sometimes people just want to cut out hearts and eat them, so what?

Let me ask you this: is it in any way possible that every Aztec or Mayan was simply born crazy?