You've only heard good things about Obama in the left-wing media because they have tossed out any pretense of objectivity and are covering up his blunders and faults, of which there are many. They simply refuse to report any of it, you need to go to alternative sources to find out what's really going on. There is indeed a great deal of opposition to Obama's radical agenda, and the man himself. In much of the country, he is not well liked at all, and I expect that anger to grow by leaps and bounds if Cap and Tax, govt-run healthcare and govt-funded abortions, amnesty for illegal aliens, handouts to leftist organizations like ACORN, appointing corrupt czars, bailouts, and a failure to turn the economy around continues for the rest of his term...

First off...you do not 'win' it. It is given to you for nobel acts that you do. Obama has not done anything! It is his job! He is the president!!!!! He was elected! There is no nobel act in that! It's just a form of a populatrity contest with bigger stakes!!!! Geez...
Sorry...I've been needing to vent that for a while...^^'
~HonoraryJapaneseGirl~

Completely agree with you in that, bud! ^^ Here's a site I think you might enjoy: ACLJ • American Center for Law & Justice
I enjoy their updates, they aren't fluff...they actually say something...

Here we go again with people not reading before they post. You are wrong, first of all he was nominated before he was president. Go watch the video posted by MMM on the previous page if you do not actually know the process in which a person is nominated and decided the winner. Just posting what you did shows you dont know. Something Given has no merit so yes he did WIN it. Popularity contest huh? thats your opinion as you are entitled to it i wont respond to that.

If you dont like him just say so that i could respect but to post misinformation is irresponsible on your part. Fact remains is if it was not Obama in office but Mccain people would be bitching over different issues if it was not Mccain and some other poor guy people would still bitch. This is has happened and its going to continue to happen as long as we have a president. You cant please the whole world (especially America in the past 15 years) whether it be leftwing or rightwing the political bashing will never cease. I find it funny his approval ratings are still positive and since he won the prize he approval rating went up by 4% among independents.

Okay...so I didn't know, I'm sorry, just responding to the original thingy. I don't have the time to read 11pgs. worth of this. I don't like him no. He has done many bad things, and that I do not respect, it's not because of his race, nor his political stance. It's what you do, not the extra fluff.

There thats better say you dont like him. Dont sugar coat it by jumping on the bandwagon thats what i dont respect, which is what you did by posting wrong info. I dont like Mccain because of the policy's i felt he would enact. Different points of view no harm no foul.

The video is on page 16 and its only 10 min and points out a lot good facts. You think hes done bad things we are going to disagree on that one since iv personally seen the good hes done so there is no point beating it to death.

*shurgs* I'm talkin' to somebody, and plus...
I wouldn't want to be contradicting what you said:
"Jumping on the banwagon of false fatcs."
To each his own, and I am leaving here before I get cussed out...
Oh, and by the way, I wanted neither of the final contestants to win...I wanted Huckabee to win...

That video is as factual as anything put out by Glenn Beck. Honestly, it's just tripe, Beck would be singing Bush's Praises now if he had won said Noble and she would be bashing him for the same reason. These talk show people are like Red Sox and Yankee's fans, right now the Yankee's are at Bat, eventually it will be the Red Sox again and the situation will reverse itself.

They gave him the Noble for bringing American policy more inline with European worldview, wich is unfortuante. America isnt Europe, doesn't think like Europe, react to the world the same way Europe does, nor behave the same way as Europe on the international stage.

Doesn't matter whose at bat you still get a ball thrown at you sometimes its just aimed at you head.

True, but the team who doesn't do drugs, and pollute the name of baseball, is always granted the better face, and the better honor...
Translation: But the government admin. that doesn't pollute it's country's name is always looked up upon, and it also tends to have more honorable people within it...

Just curious, what are all these bad things? Im just curious, to each his own.

LADY SPEAK THE TRUTH!

I gave this website to another guy,but I'll give you another one as well. They are websites that have to do with religion, but just search 'Obama' in the search box, and it'll bring up some stuff:
family.org
aclj.org
They're nice sites...
To Sinestra when you log on again: ENOUGH!!! GEEZ! You're the pickin' a figh, man, let it rest! I'm goin' to bed, and I don't want a PM cussin' me out!

To Yinmehyuga:
good way, or bad?

good. sin. deserves it.

Heh...yup...man, that guy, outta nowhere! Lol...Yeah, but it's da truth! XD

check your PM's

nvm lol:D :vsign:

Heh...check yours, I already responded...lol...anyway, it's late where I am, and I'll talk to you tomorrow, Yinmehyuga!
And, lemme just say, desipte all of this...it's really important that every now and then we look at things as though we are a blank canvas, uncoloured by the things society has placed into our minds. We need to see things as though we have never seen them before, take them in as though it is our first look at society, and look at things with innocence...We need to see things the way our Creator saw them: Faith
Once we have the perspective above, THEN we must deicde whether or not things are really true...
Anyway aave a wonderful day, everyone! ^^
~HonoraryJapanesegirl~

I see alot about gay rights, and abortion. If those are the bad things your talking about then fine. To each his own. I for one agree with him on those topics, so those sites don't coincide with my beliefs. I disagree heavily with them. But I don't hate them for thinking like they do. Everyone is different. But however you look at it i would not call those things "bad things", just a difference in opinion.

Okay I have to comment on this... Be it off topic or not, the olympics thing was slipped in here by you anyway...

Key in Olympics and DEFICIT into google. Read the articles that come up on how many past host countries had massive debt due to hosting the olympics. People are tired of being told that if we spend, we will save and unemployment will go down. The exact opposite has occurred this year. Americans are starting to realize that maybe government really doesn't have a clue anymore on growing unemployment, growing deficit, pushing plans/bills through that are spending us into a hole that no one can see bottom. It all based on biased opinions and the public is tired of it. There are real problems that the government is not paying attention to ... the massive unemployment, the war, failing economic infrustructure,.... Instead the current administation wants to focus on what has been coined a health care emergency, and getting involved in the private sector like nothing ever seen in the history of the US.

Ohhh... look big surprise..

Vancouver 2010 ... going to be left with big deficit... hmmm... soo strange..

Link:

OpEdNews - Article: Police State Canada 2010 and the Dark Side of the Olympics


Go to the Chicago Suntimes and search on 2016 Olympics... see the comments of how many Chicago citizens hate the corruptness and problems in their city and why they think the Olympics would be a bad idea. They are wondering where the millions spent into the 2016 readiness is going to go... can you say "slush fund"


Hmmm... perhaps flying two convoys (at 2million $ price) over to regergitate the worst bid/speech (see previous post for links) in history while
leaving Afganistan on the back burner, WHILE telling Americans to conserve, WHILE finally meeting the general for just 25 mins after months of requests to make a decision on the war.

You quote:
"I can't believe how many people were opposed to it simply because Obama supported it".

Just a note though.... as I pointed out in a earlier thread... commentary and opinion is not news or fact.

I don't think it was "because he simply supported it". It was a combination of factors... a lot of the above typed.

Noodle, I think this is exactly what you are talking about. samurai007 is talking about the "left-wing media", but you don't live in the US, so he isn't talking about your media.

You see the key words: "refuse to report", "blunders and faults, of which there are many" (for a president who supposedly has done nothing). He is "not well liked" in "much of the country" though has an over 50% approval rating over the whole country.

Samurai007 you jumped the shark with "government-funded abortions" and basically all the other Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck talking points...men who are paid to spend 4 hours a day pointing out faults in the present administration and then go home to their mansions and fat cigars and 30-year-old single malt whiskeys and think about how they are going to repeat the process the next day.

Okay, sorry I just had to comment on this. It is an emergency, I cant believe you can talk about our economic crisis without mentioning our awful health care. It needs reform somehow. If were going to talk about things that will improve our economy its a health care reform. At least 60% of US bankruptcies are because of current health care, but that's not a crisis at all is it?

sorry I will stay on topic from now on.

And I should respect your opinion because....?

Going to call for a link to this little tid bit.

Reform yes - everyone should agree to that. Emergency, no. I've seen that study and even CNN thinks its an over estimate.

Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies - CNN.com

We have differ opinions about emergency. The administration calls it a health care emergency... its a cost of health insurance problem that is affecting health care costs.
Health care is pretty darn good in the US. Refrom yes. Emergency, no.

When did it exactly become an "emergency" I wonder.

Okay, I'll get back on topic...
Maybe Obama won the prize because of him trying to reform health insruance industry.

Poll shows Chicagoans, Americans want Games :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Chicago 2016

James Mignerey: Real Americans don’t cheer when we lose the Olympics

Anti-Obamaites revel in loss of Olympics: And they're undercutting his foreign policy, too | Philadelphia Daily News | 10/06/2009

Majority Of Chicagoans, Americans Want Olympics: Chicago 2016 Poll


What assumption were you living under?

Did you watch the video I posted? That question is answered pretty clearly. Then the press release posted in this thread later in the day makes it more clear. (HINT: American Health Care has nothing to do with the Nobel Peace Prize.)

We don't know what media Noodle listens to. But since it only seems to be giving glowing reports on Obama, that tells you right there that it isn't fair and balanced. The left controls most of the media in the US, and there are many leftist news sources in Europe as well. Maybe Noodle will tell us exactly which sources he was talking about.

Half the country supports him, half does not. That support is generally concentrated in African-Americans (where he has approval ratings above 90% mostly because of his skin color) and the large cities. Outside of urban areas, most disapprove of him. That is "much of the country", as I said.

The health-care bills making their way through Congress do not have exemptions for abortion funding... in fact, there are subsidies in the Baucus bill for abortions that the Republicans tried to remove, and the Democrats blocked. And Obama has already removed restrictions on US aid money to fund abortions overseas (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/us...ma.html?fta=y), as well as trying to repeal the Provider Conscience Regulation that allows doctors and nurses who have a moral or religious objection to abortion to not be forced to perform one. ( Obama To Rescind Provider Conscience Regulation : NPR , Obama Misleads on Federal Abortion Conscience Clause in Health Care Speech )

Actually Rush and Glenn Beck put in very long hours (Beck especially these days)... I hope he doesn't work himself to death. You have Beck and his listeners to thank for getting that communist Van Jones out of the white house.

My questions to you is: is there anything wrong with pointing out the faults of the present adminstration?

Strange how Beck's books have been #1 on the New York times for weeks....

They deserve every penny they earn. I wonder is Rush will get the Rams....
Rush doesn't smoke and Beck doesn't drink to be exact.

If I am going to be asked to give statistics, then I will ask you to do the same. I have avoided the race card up until now, but it is becoming clear that skin color is a reason why people make opinions about our president.

You said "Although only a small majority of Chicagoans wanted the Olympics in Chicago (which is common for potential host cities) the vast majority of Americans supported the Olympics being held in the US in 2016."

I don't see a vast majority of American quoted anywhere in those links. Also... frankly there isn't an unbiased source that will quote saying the vast majority of Americans supported the Olympics in Chicago


The debates were raging on ALL media sources when Obama decided he would go for the bid... polls, the works. why even have the polls and debate contraversy if Americans were all for it.

By the way, the suntimes is an EXCELLANT post.. Look at the comments to that article by Chicago citizens...
Look at comments by older articles before he went over there (from an unbiased news source) ... you will see that a VAST majority was far from what was felt. But its possible that the ones that supported the olympics just didn't post their comments as much as the oposition..
:)

Rush used to smoke cigars, but anyone who listens to his show knows that he quit. He often says "I'm holding in my formerly nicotine-stained hands..."

And I agree, Rush, Hannity, and others put in far more work than a Nightly News anchor, who just has to show up and read the news for a half-hour. They spend many hours doing show prep.

And good riddance to Van Jones! Here's hoping Kevin "Pedophilia is ok as long as you use a condom" Jennings or Linda "Report fishy emails to the White House like a good citizen" Douglas soon follow him, as well as several others...

For Christ's sake please acknowledge the fact that I retorted your argument with facts. It's so fun to jump to the next point without responding to the facts that are sent up.

The fact that Glen Beck's books are best sellers are not an indicator to his actual intelligence, only to his ability to sell an idea, for which he is very good (like Ron Popeil or Oprah Winfrey or Billy Mays).

Again, retort what I said. Comments are not a scientific poll. Even if a small majority of Chicagoans wanted the Olympics, the VAST majority of Americans wanted it,

If you can prove that the majority of Americans DIDN'T want the Olympics, then DO IT.

If you can prove the majority of Americans DIDN'T want President Obama to fight for the Olympics in America, then DO IT.

If you can prove the majority of Americans are happy the America lost the Olympic bid, then DO IT.

I glanced back and forwarth at it while watching Glenn Beck in another window, while watching Urusei Yatsura in a smaller window.
The Obama winning the prize for health care reform was a joke for goodness sake.

You seem to glee in that fact that not everyone watched everyone second of the biased report. I watch people like Beck and others because I can fact check what they call fact and think why they form the opinion they have. I.E. Decide for myself.

The video was just trying to hard to pull a rabbit out their hat from posting past mistakes of the past made by old adminstrations and pasting Obama opinions/statements that every compaigner does. Plus bashing past winners. Simply no substance.

The fact is many people didn't want the olympics because of the nightmare it would of caused for Chicago and the debt it would cause as well.

I quote myself: "Also... frankly there isn't an unbiased source that will quote saying the vast majority of Americans supported the Olympics in Chicago" so my point was no one can... prove it either way.

Comments from many speak louder than a report of one - especially on a Chicago paper. Chicago citizens know best what a corrupt hole they live in... just as I knew when I lived in NJ years ago.

Seriously?

You ask for sources.

I give them.

Then "comments speak louder than a source of one" which is actually a poll of many, where comments on a website are just that: comments on a website, just as this is: comments on a website.

I'll ask only one more time:

If you can prove that the majority of Americans DIDN'T want the Olympics, then DO IT.

If you can prove the majority of Americans DIDN'T want President Obama to fight for the Olympics in America, then DO IT.

If you can prove the majority of Americans are happy the America lost the Olympic bid, then DO IT.

No one can 100% prove it either way was my point. I don't accept the links you posted got in 5 mins as any kind of poll or fact...

The fact that the internet exploded with debate on ALL media sources when he said he was going and up to the point Chicago was out of the running simply shows that it was not a vast majority. It could of been 25 for 25 against 25 don't care %25 undecided.

The fact that you conviently posted that a vast majority of Americans supported the Olympics was my issue. An unbiased news source simply can't post that because there is no way to get that data. The same for me posting a vast majority opposed it. I could say a there was countable opposition to the olympics just from the media explosion.

Don't mean to get anyone worked up over this... just stating that fact seemed a little on the biased side.

Really?

Your slippery words are fun, but don't really add to the discussion.

Your argument is that the vast majority of Americans didn't want the Olympics in America?

Post opposing data, or stop posting.

The same can be said for yours.
Enjoy the bubble your living in.