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globetrotter36 03-17-2011 10:58 PM

Nyororin and Termogard; there is substance in what both of you are saying about radiation;

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Time consuming to read and I can't say I understand a lot of information associated with the point being discussed.

globetrotter36 03-17-2011 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prostak (Post 857040)
Please allow me to remind you, my friends, that japanese already pased through THE SAME (and possibly- much worse!!!) situation with radioactive disaster after nuclear bombing!
Than you overcame it' : and survived!
Why just now- the such panic!?


A good many were and maybe still are suffering the after effects for years.

termogard 03-17-2011 11:21 PM

radioation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siokan (Post 857103)
Chernobyl
Observed maximum number value
20000 roentgen/hour= about 200000mSievert/hour = 200sV/h

Fukushima
Observed maximum number value
400mSv/h

So what? It was deadly dangerous to be nearby Chernobyl reactor. According to japanese sources, it is deadly dangerous now to be near damaged Fukushima reactors.

People were evacuated from a region of location of Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station and now people are evacuated from a region of Fukushima Nuclear Plant.

Chernobyl reactor had a leak of radiation into atmosphere and nearby environment and Fukushima Daiichi reactors have a leak of radiation into atmosphere.

siokan 03-17-2011 11:40 PM

It is an observation data today
http://ag.riken.jp/u/mon/2011-03-18.gif
Timezone : GMT+9:00
Unit : μSv/h 1000μSv/h=1mSv/h
Station : Tokai, Ibaraki
fukushima-100km-tokai(leeward)-115km-tokyo(leeward)

Tokyo to New York by airplane One way 0.19mSv
Hot spring(onsen) of radium 0.3-15μSv/h
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Guarapari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia beach 5-15μSv/h

siokan 03-17-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by termogard (Post 857367)
So what? It was deadly dangerous to be nearby Chernobyl reactor. According to japanese sources, it is deadly dangerous now to be near damaged Fukushima reactors.

People were evacuated from a region of location of Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station and now people are evacuated from a region of Fukushima Nuclear Plant.

Chernobyl reactor had a leak of radiation into atmosphere and nearby environment and Fukushima Daiichi reactors have a leak of radiation into atmosphere.

Chernobyl
Contamination by nuclear fission.

Fukushima
Nuclear fission is a suspension settlement.
Contamination by evaporating coolant water.

When it is not possible to understand
Google

If it is an accident similar to Chernobyl, the cooling work cannot be done.
Even if it puts on protective clothing, it is contaminated.

termogard 03-18-2011 12:02 AM

contamination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siokan (Post 857374)
Chernobyl
Contamination by nuclear fission.

Fukushima
Nuclear fission is a suspension settlement.
Contamination by evaporating coolant water.

When it is not possible to understand
Google

Yes, atmospheric contamination and contamination of nearby environment in both cases.

siokan 03-18-2011 12:24 AM

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The person doesn't live naturally in the region where the value of the radioactivity is high............

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termogard 03-18-2011 02:45 AM

possible mutants
 
Large example of wels catfish in a technical pond nearby Chernobyl NPP.

Catfish from Chernobyl

Ryzorian 03-18-2011 03:56 AM

Wels catfish in a lake in Spain weigh 300+ pounds. Those fish can get huge.

The radiation is comeing from a pond that housed spent fule rods. The primary reactor is full of sea water, it's the spent fuel rod pond they are worried about...Depleted uranium. Sure it's going to leak radiation but not in the massive quantities people are all worrying about. You would prolly take more rads from 10 mins in a sun tan bed than what you will recieve in Tokyo, let alone farther away.

GoNative 03-18-2011 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by termogard (Post 857367)
So what? It was deadly dangerous to be nearby Chernobyl reactor. According to japanese sources, it is deadly dangerous now to be near damaged Fukushima reactors.

People were evacuated from a region of location of Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station and now people are evacuated from a region of Fukushima Nuclear Plant.

Chernobyl reactor had a leak of radiation into atmosphere and nearby environment and Fukushima Daiichi reactors have a leak of radiation into atmosphere.

You really seemed determined to try and make out what has happened here is worse than it is. The events in Fukushima are nothing like what occurred at Chernobyl. Not even close. Siokan makes some excellent points which you just completely ignore on your little crusade.
Firstly the Chernobyl reactor blew when it was running near full power. It had not shut down and had control rods inserted into the core to greatly reduce the nuclear reactions. The core was completely and utterly exposed and radioactive material was blasted many km's up into the atmosphere which meant this material was spread a long way from the reactor. None of these things have occurred at the Fukushima reactors. The amounts of radiactivity that's been released is many orders of magnitude less than Chernobyl. There has been no massive explosion totally breaching the core vessels. Radioactive materials have barely gone up 500m into the atmosphere meaning the dispersal of radioactive material is minimal and poses no real threat beyond the immediate area around the reactors. Certainly absolutely impossible to pose any threat to any other country. Is it at all possible you can keep a little perspective on what has actually occurred?


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