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termogard 03-18-2011 10:33 AM

determination
 
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Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 857434)
You really seemed determined to try and make out what has happened here is worse than it is. The events in Fukushima are nothing like what occurred at Chernobyl. Not even close. Siokan makes some excellent points which you just completely ignore on your little crusade.
Firstly the Chernobyl reactor blew when it was running near full power. It had not shut down and had control rods inserted into the core to greatly reduce the nuclear reactions. The core was completely and utterly exposed and radioactive material was blasted many km's up into the atmosphere which meant this material was spread a long way from the reactor. None of these things have occurred at the Fukushima reactors.

Yes, I read about and saw many documentaries. The fuel was not only blasted up to the atmosphere. A large part of molten radioative fuel leaked through the bottom of reactor to besements of the Block due to very high temperature.

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Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 857434)
The amounts of radiactivity that's been released is many orders of magnitude less than Chernobyl. There has been no massive explosion totally breaching the core vessels. Radioactive materials have barely gone up 500m into the atmosphere meaning the dispersal of radioactive material is minimal and poses no real threat beyond the immediate area around the reactors. Certainly absolutely impossible to pose any threat to any other country. Is it at all possible you can keep a little perspective on what has actually occurred?

There has been no massive explosion of core at Fukushima Daiichi NP, right, but damaged reactors still "infects" atmosphere and nearby environment by radioactive vapor and hot gases. How long It will take place? How many days or even months? Can you imagine or, say, calculate an overall damage to environment of radioactivity to be released?
That's why I compare Chernobyl disaster to recent one. Two or three relatively "small" explosions and a long-standing process of radioactive contamination of atmosphere and nearby territories. I compare not by mechanism of explosions of cores but mostly by consequenses of radioactive contamination.

GoNative 03-18-2011 12:17 PM

There has already been damage to the environment in the immediate area that will be long lasting. I doubt very much that anyone who lived within 10km of the reactors will be going back to their homes in the forseeable future. I doubt anyone within 20km would even want to go back. The point is because there hasn't been a massive explosion of the likes of Chernobyl means any radioactive material ejected into the atmosphere is not going up high enough to be able to travel that far. Which is why there is very little chance anyone in places like Tokyo will have hardly any increase in radiation at all. Certainly utterly impossible for any other countries be affected in any harmful way.

termogard 03-18-2011 12:23 PM

very little chance
 
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Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 857544)
Which is why there is very little chance anyone in places like Tokyo will have hardly any increase in radiation at all. Certainly utterly impossible for any other countries be affected in any harmful way.

Okay, time will show.

siokan 03-18-2011 02:37 PM

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For other people(Japanese)
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termogard 03-18-2011 09:49 PM

vidoe
 
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What does it mean?

termogard 03-19-2011 04:32 AM

look and compare
 
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Originally Posted by siokan (Post 857564)
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Seems, you keep comparing recent situation at Fukushima Dai-ichi NRR to incident at 3 Mile Island occured in the USA.
Could you find a photo of similar damage to reactor Block of 3 Mile Island Nuclear Power Station ?
Images below demostrate a devastation at Chernobyl NPS and Fukushima Dai-ichi NPP.

tokusatsufan 03-19-2011 11:01 AM

I don't know what to make of that Nuclear Boy thing. On one hand,it stops kids worrying,on the other hand isn't it kind of patronising?

Celte 03-19-2011 11:15 AM

24 times more nuclear fuel at Fukushima than Chernobyl

siokan 03-19-2011 12:09 PM

Because the clarification is troublesome, it is this and the end.
Exception when you enter information that is more excellent than Prof. Hayano.
http://twitter.com/hayano
(University of Tokyo, physics chairman)

Plants and buildings with which the outside is covered are built breakable.
Especially, the upper part breaks first, and becomes a gun barrel that diffusion of radioactivity.
It is partially made from wooden.
The important one is a nuclear reactor and Containment building in this lower side of the inside.
The photograph is the third reactor and the fourth reactor.
The fuel bundle is pulled out from the nuclear reactor nine months ago, and there is a fuel in the cooling pool.

Easy comparison of Chernobyl and Fukushima-3 Mile.
Chernobyl 64km point 4000m sV/h 180km point 900m sV/h
Fukushima-3 Mile 30km+point 1m sV/h
400 times radiation it when Chernobyl is compared with Hiroshima(Atomic bomb).

Chernobyl drives recklessly while doing nuclear fission, and explodes.
Fukushima-3 Mile reacts the chemistry by the nuclear fission suspension and water, becomes hydrogen, and explodes.

There was no "Containment building" that prevented the radioactive substance in Chernobyl.

GoNative 03-19-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Celte (Post 857768)

Wow that blog looks incredibly credible....damn it amazes me where some of you choose to get your information! No wonder you're so misinformed!!


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