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boinky78 12-14-2008 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 644683)
Women who go into that kind of modeling, or any superficially artistic pursuit in the same vein, don't plan on doing it forever either. But when they find themselves in that world, they find it very hard to leave it.
It really depends though.... if my dream does happen(which I highly doubt it will there is like a 1% chance of this happening)
If I have alot of fans and alot of people like me I might stay doing this work as long as I can
but I'm going to school for nursing so if my plan doesnt work out I have something to fall back on

MMM 12-14-2008 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 644683)
Women who go into that kind of modeling, or any superficially artistic pursuit in the same vein, don't plan on doing it forever either. But when they find themselves in that world, they find it very hard to leave it.
Fans just want you to show more skin and managers just want you to...show more skin and make more money. The pressure to go nude has two routes. Either you break into "mainstream" and never have to go nude (until you are broke and played out) or go from gravure idol to "image videos" to porn flicks. Of course a lot of girls drop out to get married or something else...few of them are household names...but there will always be the otaku.

I remember a few years ago I was in Yokohama and was at a mall and saw a sign that a "mini-concert" would be held an hour or two later. The "concert" was a trio of young girls in matching frilly dresses and they sang two or three songs. The crowd of a hundred-plus was full of men aged 25-45 with very nice Nikon and Canon cameras. At first I thought "Oh, this is a press junket. All these guys are reporters or paparazzi. These girls must be really famous." But then I noticed that no one else in the mall seemed to notice the "concert" and in actuality all the guys were super-fan otaku following the "rise" of these up-and-coming pop-idols.

I never heard of the "idols" again, but I am sure those men enjoyed their pictures. The only difference is gravure idols don't sing.

Keaton421 12-14-2008 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by boinky78 (Post 644682)
If you think about it its really not that bad its not like porn or anything
its just it would be nice to flaunt it while ihave it
it would be cool
to have
all those photobooks and dvds
from when I was younger
and when I'm old and saggy and my body is streched from having babies
I can look back and say
"o look how skinny or pretty I was back then"
its just something to experince its nothing i plan on doing forever
Your concept of beauty is a bit strange, but... I honestly believe you'll look back on these photobooks and dvds with nothing but shame and regret.

The thing is, it is porn in the wrong hands. There are slews of middle-aged men itching to see an underage girl frolick around in a swimsuit. Read what MMM said, you will probably end up with two choices: go nude, or go home. Please, have some self respect...

(MMM, I've seen a documentary about men who follow those little girl bands around... it's truly heartbreaking)

boinky78 12-14-2008 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Keaton421 (Post 644704)
Your concept of beauty is a bit strange, but... I honestly believe you'll look back on these photobooks and dvds with nothing but shame and regret.

The thing is, it is porn in the wrong hands. There are slews of middle-aged men itching to see an underage girl frolick around in a swimsuit. Read what MMM said, you will probably end up with two choices: go nude, or go home. Please, have some self respect...

(MMM, I've seen a documentary about men who follow those little girl bands around... it's truly heartbreaking)
I completely understand all of your opinions and they are true
maybe I'm just being unrealistic...but honestly even taking nudes wouldnt bother me
I just want to see what it will be like

btw
what was the name of the documentary you're talking about?

boinky78 12-14-2008 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 644714)
I have only seen one white gravure idol. One of Saaya Iries partners in "Sweet Kiss". But, I think the whole white skin thing didn't work in her favor, and she was sold into the professional modeling trade instead by her agency... which is probably a good thing, actually...

As for MMM's slants on gravure idols; Ayumi Hamasaki started out as one. It is best to start young, but keep your top on, and you can use it as serious leverage to get attention later on.

As for a black girl making it in Japan... I am not so sure... good luck. (they associate dark skin with poverty in SE Asia. That is slowly dieing out, but still common expectation)...
Yeah the chances of this happening is close to 1% or less
I only know of one black girl who is famous in japan and thats crystal kay but she is not even all black shes half korean

Keaton421 12-14-2008 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by boinky78 (Post 644710)
I completely understand all of your opinions and they are true
maybe I'm just being unrealistic...but honestly even taking nudes wouldnt bother me
I just want to see what it will be like

btw
what was the name of the documentary you're talking about?
I guess I can't really respect someone in that line of work. If I were a girl I wouldn't like the thought of men masturbating to my pictures, especially if I was underage. What would you tell your husband and children?

I can't remember the name of the documentary, sorry

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I have only seen one white gravure idol. One of Saaya Iries partners in "Sweet Kiss".
Sorry, but why the hell do you know this?

boinky78 12-14-2008 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 644719)
Do you have a pic so we can see what you are expecting to promote?
I do have a picture but I'm not in the mood for flame baiting since I don't take good pictures(so I ish not postin)
but in reallife alot of people tell me I'm pretty and alot of people tell me I look ugly its 50/50
I don't feel that I'm attractive which is one of the reasons I want to be a gravure model

boinky78 12-14-2008 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Keaton421 (Post 644722)
I guess I can't really respect someone in that line of work. If I were a girl I wouldn't like the thought of men masturbating to my pictures, especially if I was underage. What would you tell your husband and children?

I can't remember the name of the documentary, sorry
Well I know there will be men who masturbate to my pictures but I really don't care to much about that
because I know there are people out there who will really care about me as a model
like me for example I'm not a lesbian or anything and I don't get turned on by girls
but I like looking at gravure pictures/videos because I really am interested in these girls
not just to "fap" to them I like looking at them because they're pretty/cute
I'm sure there will be some people out ther who really do care about me and arent just using me to fap to

Keaton421 12-14-2008 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by boinky78 (Post 644726)
I'm sure there will be some people out ther who really do care about me and arent just using me to fap to
Keep telling yourself that. Let me tell you from a guy's point of view... as an [underage] gravure model, no man will buy your magazines because they "care about you". You may mistake "caring" for "creepy stalker", but it's not the same. They'll get off and forget your name.

Sorry if I'm being extreme, but you're what, like 15?

Keaton421 12-14-2008 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 644730)
Why? There is no shame in knowledge...LOLz.
Everyone knows some weird sh*t, I just hope you didn't get that knowledge by actually watching those videos *nervous laughter*


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