ah wait, i read that chart upside down, now it makes sense. So all women that say that size doesnt matter basically lie or have no idea how it is to have a decent shlong. Typical lol.

Do you have sex with dudes? If not, kindly STFU ;)

piss off lol its 2.30 am here, and i am working in 2 languages, and none of them is my native tongue. i meant read not wrote.

Let me guess. You're another English teacher who, apart from his Japanese girlfriend and some acquaintances who humour you, really doesn't know any Japanese people?

It's either that or you're an anime obssessed freak who thinks Japanese guys are the brooding, metrosexual, anti-heroes that are the main characters in the video games you play lol.

And I don't know what gym you went to. But the gym I was at (the university gym) had a weights room which was usually full of rugby players (most of whom were bigger than me) as well as a dojo where the various martial arts clubs trained.

We had all sorts at our uni. Yeah we had the metrosexual guys too... but they were but one of many cliques and styles that were present at the uni.

I think Japanese society reflects that diversity I saw at uni and isn't the picture you paint.

Haha.. bullsh*t.

As it happens, I know where that graph came from too.

It's a bullsh*t graph that started from a blog which was promoting penis enlargement medicine and then went viral.

(Someone tried to present it in another forum that I visit, but instead gave the full link.)

The E is meant to be "unsatisfactory"
The D is meant to be "satisfactory"
C = pleasurable
B = very pleasurable
A = ideal

Am I right?

No, I am a Polish lawyer with no interest in teaching anyone English whatsoever, mate. Never had a Japanese girlfriend , never will either. My wife is from Phlippines, with some Chinese and Spanish blood mixed into it. Beats any J-girl anytime of the day.

As to the Japanese culture? Let me see... I have studied Japanese calligraphy for nearly 10 years, also I am a member of a research group of classical literature organised by Shosoin calligraphy org. I have studied martial arts for 7, including 2 years in 極真会館本部道場 in Ikebukuro, as well as Japanese language and culture for 2 years here in Tokyo. So, I am pretty sure I am quite well acquainted with Japanese culture.

I do not watch anime, do not even like anime. Don't even have TV, simply no time for garbage.

So try again, your judgement failed.

Japanese guys have complexes, tons of them. Girliness of the guys here is aparent.

p.s. judging from your avatar pic (if indeed it is yours) yuou do look like charisma man though, lol

Whether the particulars of my assessment of you is right or not is irrelevant.

My point was that you're just another gaijin in the same vein.

Also your "Beats any J-girl anytime of the day" comment just shows how much of a bigoted and ignorant person you are regardless of how much you think you know about Japan.

PS- Taking a calligraphy class and a karate class (or whatever martial art you take) doesn't make you an expert in Japanese culture or society.

yes. well. i also doubt validity of these numbers - doubt that a woman (who isn't a pron star) can tell the dimensions of a penis accurately. not to mention bias from their sales point of view.

who knows...maybe someone will get a moral boost from this chart if scores A or smth.... :cool:

Yeah... one of my girlfriends a while back explained to me that penis size is mostly irrelevant.

She said that for her, a bigger one was easier to use and that some sizes were better than others.. but what that perfect size is varies from woman to woman and that most women who know their bodies and are not afraid to express what they want in the bedroom, can make do with whatever size they happen to have in front of them.

Apology accepted. :D

"Beats any J-girl anytime of the day" - stands for "Japanese girls are not my type and never will. I simply prefer southern nations, for many reasons". It has nothing to do with being ignorant, but simply knowing what I like. Also, I do not wrap what i say in cotton to cushion the blow, i just say what i think. Do not care if you don't like it, either.

And where did I say that I am an expert. I was merely pointing out how wrong you are, and that in fact I have a little to do with Japanese culture, most likely more than you ever will have. So get your facts straight before you judge someone, boy.

And it is not a calligraphy class, but a research group devoted to studying not only calligraphy but also classic literature of both Japan and China. I do not study it once a week, but few hours a day. So it is more of a profession rather than a Sunday hobby. Aaite?

And i am not just another gaijin in the same vein, but another gaijin who is living here long enough to notice the same patterns as other gaijins who are here long enough. Gee, man, you probably came over here for 2 years of college and think you know it all, yes?

lol... Way to miss the point.

It's not a matter of me not liking it because it sounds harsh. It's more a matter of you just being plain wrong.

I like it how you've tried to talk yourself up but haven't addressed the point I made about Japanese society being too diverse to label as effeminate.

Yup... you're just another stupid gaijin who thinks he knows it all.

I don't think I know it all.. but I'm not the one making absurd judgements on a whole society of people so whether I know it all or not isn't really the point.

I mean you further prove your ignorance by saying "Japanese girls are not my type and never will. I simply prefer southern nations, for many reasons" as though every single Japanese WOMAN (there is a saying.. only pedophiles date girls lol) is the same.

Do i need to buy you a magnifying glass for you to understand that it was a generalisation, not a statement defining entire nation? I mean even mentally challanged bar of soap would gather that much by now.

But when i see 5 out of ten guys on a train playing with their hair in the reflection of the JR train window glass, or some other folks running around with woman's handbags, i detect a dangerous pattern.

Look man, is it a crime not to be attracted to Japanese girls? They don't appeal to me, wtf lol. There are for sure cool chicks out there, with lots of character and decent hips module built in, etc, but i simply don't dig the majority. What am i supposed to do, sue my hormones for not responding to it? I am picky.

Let me ask you this. I do not like sports cars either, don't lke football, and do not drink, don't go out with "the guys" for a booze up and do not gamble, don't smoke either - does it make me gay?

And thanks for calling me stupid. :ywave:

They aren't weird, they are just different! Just because you might "think" that they are f. weird, only cause they do not fit in your Western typical maskulin MAN.. doesn't make the Japanese weird. You have a simple little norm in your head wich tells you, that the people who don't behave like Western man and don't weigh as much as Western man (what an ignorant thing to say, considering we are talking about an Asian Island btw.) have to be weird..

Nope, they are just different because they happen to be born on an Island, far away from any other Western standards and civilisation..

May I ask you? What are you doing in a country which doesn't fit your philosophy?

Who said it dooesnt fit my philosophy, and who said that men who arn't tall or bulky are not maculine?

Also, what do you know about my "norm"? I was born in Europe, but majority of my family are from the eastern part of the world, including Georgians and Tatars. My grandma was born in Northern China, though she was not Chinese, my granfather spent years in Vienam and Burma. I was fascinated with Asian culture long before you learned how to say "dada". My family is as European as Japanese are Norwegian.

Isolation is one thing, and not being adaptive is another. If you spent some tme here interacting with the Japanese people like i have, you would notice that many of them have issues with adaptation to new things, trends, that are not comonly accepted by the whole "island". There are many soide effects of it, both social and economical. But that is a never ending discussion, which i have no intention to be dragged into, as simply i cbf to talk about it any more.

It is amazing how isolation subject is being brought up every time Japan is being mentioned, and it is used as a deflecting shiled to any criticism. Well, we live in the era of instant info exchange and the isolation times are over. Time to catch up with the rest of the world. And do not even try to rebuttal this with "it's good to be different, and you do not accept it because you are a Western man, with Western-ideas-for-life infested mind".

I am in Japan because i really enjoy many aspects of the culture. I also think that the country itself fits my personality quite well. Contradictory to what i have said earlier on? I do not think so. Perhaps there is more to me than you superficially can see. As to the modern Japan, well, it is a bit irritating, but I try not to interact with it much. I pick thing worth nibbling on. Besides, there is no country or nation that would not annoy me or anyne else here. People are too socially correct to speak up.

Dude calm the F down. So what if he is talking from his perspective? It is just his opinion. Weird, beautiful etc.. they are all subjective opinions, and everyone has them, including you. Did you know that there are many things that when Japanese people look at people from different countries, and they think.. that's weird. Does that mean I should jump down their throat about it, if i disagree? Did you ever maybe think there even some Japanese people who might look at a fellow Japanese's fashion sense and think.. hmm weird.. I will guarantee you there are.

lol.. An accurate generalisation is one thing. But now you're just making sh*t up because you've been proven wrong. Dude.. I lived in Japan. "5 out of 10" guys were NOT playing with their hair in the railway station. And even those that did? So? Some people do that in New Zealand too!

Now you're backtracking. You said your girlfriend "beats any J-girl" or something to that effect. As though just because they're Japanese... your girlfriend wins by default.

But even the above comment is flawed because you don't even KNOW the majority to able to dismiss them.

Of course not.. but you're the one trying to say that Japanese men have a "problem". Not me.

His opinion was more judgemental than observational (compare his opinion to RealJames one which I simply disagreed with but didn't really take issue with)

It's the judgemental part or Ryurui's post that I think he (and I) are taking issue with.

Opinion cannot be proven wrong, as it is subjective. I am no backing off from anything, lol, you urgently need to get laid to get some of that steam out.
Anyway I should have known better not to get involved in discussion with ppl like yourself, who make a living out of looking for a hole in a whole. You are a type of a person who would actually ride a subway to count how many metro kids are fixing their hair, than post it in here and wank to your own post. Telling you once again, I ve been here long enough to be entitled to have a view and don't give a monkey toss if you disagree

How on earth could anyone possibly disagree with:

Western men generally think Japanese men are effeminate.

?!? -_-

Actually a significant portion of men in Japan totally get sickened by the way fashion has been going, and the whole grass-eating-boy (草食系) for the last while.

In fact, 草食系 is such a common phrase in Japan purely as a reflection of how so many in this society are amused by, and find the femininity of men ridiculous.

Ironic is how some guys in Japan who laugh and point at others saying 草食系 to them actually have something similar said towards them by westerners ><

lol i have not heard of 草食系 before, but i am so going to start using it in the office, with "chan" at the end to spice things up and add some funky rhythm to it :D

LOL 草食系ちゃ～ん is golden!! That's a SURE way to piss off a guy and make everyone else laugh hahaha

I usually hear it when listening to complaints, very often from parents wondering what's up with their kids are that way, or why their girl is interested in that kind of guy ><

lol. Opinion CAN be proven wrong.

What kind of stupid idiot sees a couple of Japanese guys who take care of their hair and then decides that Japanese men are effeminate?

How on Earth could anyone possibly speak for all Western men?

Speak for the hick town in Canada you come from. Don't speak for all of the West.

what the hell part of generally don't you understand?

most, by popular vote, majority, more than not, etc

even if I hadn't put generally in there anyone with the slightest bit of common sense would assume it meant the significant portion and not all,

and it's not like I just started being explicit, I've been so careful with words since the lot of you flame-raped the shit out of me for making a generalization a few months back lol

I also happen to come from every single big city in Canada, which thankfully is a country so multicultural that people can grow up with, be friends with, love and criticize people from all nations respectfully

Why would you want to encourage them to call people gay? Seriously. WTF?

i'm beginning to think Mr. Devils Advocate over there does it on purpose to get a row out of people. it's getting f-king annoying though, personally. he's about to join bluejeansc*nt on the ignorelist.

btw:

is 草食系 pronounced soushokugei or soushokukei ..guessing the latter

rofl

It's そうしょくけい　
草食系 - General - Tangorin Japanese Dictionary
Actually, the definition of 草食系 sounds like what every mature woman dreams of...
Guys that make fun of dudes like that must be chauvinistic jealous fatties ;) (Before any dudes get their panties in a bunch -- I'm just poking fun)

I'm saying you are no where NEAR qualified to say that.

Seriously.

I even say something along similar lines earlier in the thread where I talk of the stereotype that is out there about Asian men being effeminate.

Is that stereotype out there? Of course it is. Is it that the MAJORITY of Western men that think that? Don't have a clue and if my experience is anything to go by with my interactions with other "Western" men (and considering I'm a Westerner myself)... no.

It's not even a matter of whether you're right or I'm right... you just aren't QUALIFIED to make that generalisation.

That's what I'm saying. Yet you're trying to sell your perception of things as the way things are.

And I love how you're "sticking up for Canada".

Hate to break it to you.. but Canada is just "America-lite".

It's kinda like how New Zealand is Australia-lite.

As for the "flame rape" that you received for your racist thread that you created before. You deserved every bit of it.

And you are?

Ignore me... I don't even know you or interact with you lol

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Dicks Dicks Dicks
 

Haha, since MMM did it first I guess I can post this (though honestly I was thinking of posting it a few days ago);

I think this summarizes the thread pretty well. ;)

Sorry to break your opinion on this, but you're way off. Canada and USA are two separate "worlds".

And by the way, to be ontopic, who cares if they are or not the same size (except for OP, of course)?

you did not just pull the "Qualified" card out of the troll-bag!
Right after pulling the "not All" card
and then trailing it with the "quick start another ridiculous fight about America, this time vs Canada! That will work to take the heat off my stupid comments!" card

do you realize how NONE of us are qualified to make ANY of the comments we do, especially according to your standards

Am I going to have to preface every single one of my posts with "In my humble, unqualified, personal experience and opinion, I think some, not all, but they do exist in a certain number of ____ may be of the opinion that ____ is ___ etc etc. These views do not reflect those of my neighbors or of the demographics to which I belong." ??!

I don't think you're qualified to tell me that I deserved anything.
I certainly don't think you're qualified to say that Canada is America-lite
You're not even qualified to say NZ is Aus-lite.

You honestly roam these forums looking for any kind of word-hole you can nitpick at and contribute next to nothing yourself. You use such techniques as "not all" and "not qualified to say" etc etc. MMM is a frequent victim of your hypersensitivity to explicit correctness and random desires to attack anything.

99% of this forum, hell the internet, would be erased if we removed all unqualified opinions haha

In order to save that 1% we have left to enjoy, does anyone knows when i can get any of the

It is out of stock on amazon.co.jp.

Ronin, your friends are worried about you mate, they wish for you to return back to the wild.


James, he is qualified to tell us we are not as he has a certificate that makes him fully eligible to make such statements.

Wait.. you're the one who said

I'm simply telling you HOW via my opinion FFS.

I already let it go before earlier as a simple disagreement. But now you're trying to sell it as an obvious fact.

So stop trying to act like you were simply giving your opinion and I pounced on you. I'm not having a go at you because I think you're being offensive. I'm having a go at you because I think you're WRONG. It's the same for ryuurui and his bigoted opinions on Japanese men (and women) and then backtracking and acting like I'm the one being hypersensitive.

If you can't handle your opinions being scrutinized and rubbished then best not share them.

As for Canada being America-lite. I'm speaking for myself. I can argue that rationale further if you like... but I think you'd be stupid to take issue with that statement especially since you've already taken to ALL Western men with the same brush.

Trolls are normally like "Ahahaha I'm an evil troll",they normally call themselves trolls. I don't think we should accuse each other of being trolls. Doesn't make a nice forum to go on. Reminds me of one I went on when I was about 14,to be honest.

Well, we are all kids, some more than the others. I, on the other hand, do not like being called stupid, even though sometimes I enjoy being a complete retard, but that is only during my spare time. :D

Back on Topic, I would say that the answer to the OP's question could be answered in one sentence. I'm gonna give it a go^^

They are not the same size of course and the reason for this is that everything is natural organized in this world. Same with the size of a mans copulatory organ. Woman in Japan in general are much more dainty than there Western conterparts.

I hope that explains mother natur :)