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Realism 09-27-2011 05:45 PM

Just found a great resource to read Japanese for NFL football fans

NFL 2011 Week3 Part6 - READ2CH

NFL 2011 Week3 Part5 - READ2CH

I'm just addicted to BBS threads.

KellyMD 09-27-2011 08:30 PM

Thank you very much, masaegu :)!

Jorg 09-27-2011 10:48 PM

What does the small イ mean in katakana? eg: フィ. Or, rather, how do you pronounce it?

I know what all the other small ones mean but I'd never seen this one before.

Thanks.

masaegu 09-28-2011 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorg (Post 881394)
What does the small イ mean in katakana? eg: フィ. Or, rather, how do you pronounce it?

I know what all the other small ones mean but I'd never seen this one before.

Thanks.

We pronounce it like "hwi" but so many Japanese-learners pronounce it like "fi", which only helps them sound foreign. There is no "f" sound in Japanese. It is "Mt. Huji", not "Mt. Fuji", believe it or not.

The 「フィ」 mora originally did not exist in Japanese. We created it later on to write loan words from European languages that contained "fi", "fee", "fea", etc.

フィラデルフィア = Philadelphia
トロフィー = trophy
フィールド = Field

Jorg 09-28-2011 05:01 AM

Interesting. Is there absolutely no difference in pronounciation between the "H" in ひ and the "H" in ふ?

masaegu 09-28-2011 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorg (Post 881407)
Interesting. Is there absolutely no difference in pronounciation between the "H" in ひ and the "H" in ふ?

No difference for us native speakers. It is the same consonant.




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Jorg 09-28-2011 05:46 AM

Now I wonder why all the programs I've used have taught me to pronounce it as an F. It must be common, too, seeing how you said many japanese learners do it. Seems like the world's most elaborate and pointless prank.

Anyway, thanks for helping and for that correction. Appreciated.

Jorg 09-28-2011 12:59 PM

So you'd pronounce "trophy", "torohwi-"?

masaegu 09-28-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorg (Post 881439)
So you'd pronounce "trophy", "torohwi-"?

Correct. That is the closest one can get without using sounds that are not used in Japanese.

It is not only Japanese in which this sort of thing happens. I absolutely had no idea what they were talking about the first time I heard an American pronounce "karaoke" or "kimono". So it is all fair.

hitotsz 09-30-2011 12:04 AM

How do you say "Could you give me your Koebu channel link again"

君の声部チャンネルのリンくをもう一回もらえますか  is this right?


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