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Maxful 03-24-2011 06:33 AM

Hi, I would like to know the differences between 1a and 1b and 2a and 2b.


1a. たった今学校から帰ったところです。
1b. たった今学校から戻ったところです。


2a. 今ちょうど学校から帰ってきたところです。
2b. 今ちょうど学校から戻ってきたところです。

Darnellrbts 03-24-2011 02:14 PM

Hello everyone back with a question. Which one would I use for number
すうじ or ばんごう??

masaegu 03-24-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darnellrbts (Post 858714)
Hello everyone back with a question. Which one would I use for number
すうじ or ばんごう??

Good question. You use both depending on what kind of number you are talking about.

すうじ is used when talking about numerals in general as opposed to letters.

ばんごう is a specific number assinged to a person or thing, such as a phone number, ID number, street number, etc.

Darnellrbts 03-24-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by masaegu (Post 858715)
Good question. You use both depending on what kind of number you are talking about.

すうじ is used when talking about numerals in general as opposed to letters.

ばんごう is a specific number assinged to a person or thing, such as a phone number, ID number, street number, etc.

Thank you for the quick reply, you hit the nail right on the head that's what I needed to know.

Fugue 03-24-2011 06:35 PM

Currently writing a short essay for my class. I meant to say, "I don't know what else to do," writing, "何をするのを知ません." When I got it back my teacher told me to insert "ほかに" somewhere around where 何 is, but I don't know if it's before or after. Also she told me to change the second を to か and pointed out that 知ません is used incorrectly (so I'm guessing it's 分かりません?).

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

cloud9 03-24-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugue (Post 858740)
Currently writing a short essay for my class. I meant to say, "I don't know what else to do," writing, "何をするのを知ません." When I got it back my teacher told me to insert "ほかに" somewhere around where 何 is, but I don't know if it's before or after. Also she told me to change the second を to か and pointed out that 知ません is used incorrectly (so I'm guessing it's 分かりません?).

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

My guess would be...
ほかに何をするのが分かりません。

分かる usually takes が that's why the 2nd を has to be changed to が.

Fugue 03-24-2011 06:51 PM

Well at first I assumed she must have written が, but it actually looks like か. Might've forgotten the tenten though. Thanks for the help.

cloud9 03-24-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugue (Post 858745)
Well at first I assumed she must have written が, but it actually looks like か. Might've forgotten the tenten though. Thanks for the help.

Sorry, my bad ほかに何をするのか分かりません should be right, don't use が. :o Ignore my previous post plz.

Fugue 03-25-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cloud9 (Post 858753)
Sorry, my bad ほかに何をするのか分かりません should be right, don't use が. :o Ignore my previous post plz.

Oh, okay. What exactly does か mean there then? I've never used it that way.

KyleGoetz 03-25-2011 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fugue (Post 858780)
Oh, okay. What exactly does か mean there then? I've never used it that way.

It effective means the preceding part of the phrase is unsure/unknown/whatever. It sort of fulfills the role of "what" or "where" or whatever in the sentence.

何曜日関西へ行くか、まだ決めていません。
I have not decided what day I will go to Kansai.

何時に起きるか分かりません。
I do not know what time I will wake up.

「誰がボブを演じるかについて何かお考えはありますか ?」
"Do you have any idea about who will play [the role of] Bob [in the play/show/musical]?"

Without the か, all these sentences would be grammatically incorrect. Basically, if you've got a 誰、何、何時 etc. type of question word, you need to include that か.


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