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10-11-2009, 02:21 AM

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I'm sensing the same thing. For me as well it is hard to understand why so many people so passionately hate Obama. I understand that not everything he does is perfect and he can't please everyone with his choices, but even when good things happen to him like winning the Nobel Peace Prize, he is still degraded and demeaned. I personally think that is a rather sad state of America. Him winning the Nobel Peace Prize was a shock to me, as I am sure it was to many other people (the president included), but I wasn't angry and didn't hate him for winning such an award. I think it is a great achievement and is representative of how the US is changing in the world's eyes for the better.
That's just it... there was no achievement. A bunch of socialists got together and chose "Socialist of the Year" without a care in the world about real accomplishments or achievements. It was a popularity contest. And it was not America's popularity that they considered, it was Obama's and his far left agenda that they were rewarding/encouraging. How in the world is that a good or beneficial thing? I don't care if Obama is awarded "Lefty of the Year", but the real shame is that many people and organizations out there, trying to help people, could have benefited from this and didn't because of a political popularity contest. That's what's sad.


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10-11-2009, 03:09 AM

It doesn't really make much sense to me? If what the news stations said is true then he was only in office 12 days. Not enough time to make a change. He didn't win it based off what he's done but rather what he's promised to do.
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It doesn't really make much sense to me? If what the news stations said is true then he was only in office 12 days. Not enough time to make a change. He didn't win it based off what he's done but rather what he's promised to do.
And you believe the media?
I really do think both parties blow everything out of the water....every time.

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10-11-2009, 04:11 AM

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And you believe the media?
I really do think both parties blow everything out of the water....every time.
I just looked it up and nominations must be in by Feb. 1st. Obama was sworn in on the 20th. So Obama was actually in office less time than the media said.


So, what did Obama do during the 20th and the first to become a nominee for the noble peace prize???

I did say I beleived the media I said IF WHAT THE NEWS SAID IS TRUE.

And after doing the looking up on it, apparently they were telling the truth.
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10-11-2009, 04:24 AM

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It doesn't really make much sense to me? If what the news stations said is true then he was only in office 12 days. Not enough time to make a change. He didn't win it based off what he's done but rather what he's promised to do.
Don't listen to the "chosen in February" argument. It isn't true. Acceptance of nominations ends in February, that is all.
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10-11-2009, 04:26 AM

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I feel that it is a disgrace to the people who were given the Nobel and truly deserved it. It makes them look bad. Obama hasn't done anything worthy of the awar, other than being the first black president. If you take that away, his acheivments are pitiful and nonexistent.
riddle me this what have you done this year? or in your entire life i could easily make the same argument about you, or someone i know or myself for that matter. Try not thinking on such a tiny scale and actually analyze what you see and hear not just reproducing the some tired old crap.

Now i will admit i was taken a back when i heard it since this was not even on my scope. I find it funny no one even mentioned his speech on winning it. He pretty much acknowledged what many of you are complaining about. He himself stated that he does not feel he has done enough to deserve the award, nor does he feel that he is more deserving than winners of years past, he also stated that there is a lot more work to do. I actually thought he was going to decline it but instead he took it on good faith for what he is trying to accomplish and used the honor of winning the award as motivation.

It was clearly stated WHY he wont its no secret its not some cover up. learn how to read its right there for gods sake and if that is not enough the committee also stated why he won because of what he IS trying to accomplish not what he has accomplished but what he IS aiming to accomplish which denuclearization. Do i think it was too soon for him to win it, in a way yes because he has a lot to deal with right now and this is just a distraction and another reason for people to attack him.

So i will end this with my usual comment.

If any of you think you can do a better job in the world shut up and put up. I dont care if your American, African, English or Chinese if you think you got what it takes to make the world better than just talking then do it.



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10-11-2009, 04:28 AM

Ok you people need to do some research before you start freaking out. People are making a huge deal about him only being in office before being nominated. This is not when he was picked for the prize, only nominated. Many people get nominated. And I think everyone needs to read this article, but here is a quick quote that I hope calms some of you down, or at leas it should.

"Oftentimes, the winners are people who have not completed their work toward peace, but who are at a critical juncture in their work and who need the support that winning the Nobel Peace Prize brings."

full article: What Does It Take to Win the Nobel Peace Prize - How Are Nobel Peace Prize Winners Chosen - Nobel Peace Prize Selection


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10-11-2009, 04:35 AM

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That's just it... there was no achievement. A bunch of socialists got together and chose "Socialist of the Year" without a care in the world about real accomplishments or achievements. It was a popularity contest. And it was not America's popularity that they considered, it was Obama's and his far left agenda that they were rewarding/encouraging. How in the world is that a good or beneficial thing? I don't care if Obama is awarded "Lefty of the Year", but the real shame is that many people and organizations out there, trying to help people, could have benefited from this and didn't because of a political popularity contest. That's what's sad.
But he is representing our country, so yes it is becuase of Americas popularity. And is it such a terrible thing that he is upping the US's popularity. I for one dont think so. I dont mind one bit that we are much more accepted in the worlds eyes. And I truly am sick of the socialist card, its very petty to just throw it in there to make Obama seem like the worst guy in the world. Great Fox news tactics your using. When you cant find anything else to be mad at Obama for, just call him a socialist, that'll show' em.


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10-11-2009, 06:02 AM

Hm, didn't think much of that. If his humbly accepting and winning the Nobel Peace Prize will make this country be viewed positively for once by other countries, I'm cool with it. The fact that an American in general won makes me happy. Could care less as to who won it, but I still feel that what he was doing during his campaign had a lot to do with his being nominated in the first place, as he's attempting to strengthen ties with other countries, nations, and allies.
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