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10-11-2009, 06:41 AM
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Giving Ghadafi 400K at the last UN meeting.... Being weak on issues that make America's enemies smack their lips. The socialist card is being played because of this year's socialist acts. Do we need to really list them? Maybe not all from Obama directly, but strongly from this administation as a whole. We have a president who priorities are to travel across the globe in two convoys that have been estimated at 2 million dollars to try to round of the 2016 olympics for Chicago of all places.. where we get national news of Chicago gangs out of control the same freaking night!!!?!?! At the same time Obama flies the General Mcchrystal to the runway in Denmark to meet/scold him for 25 mins to tell him to keep his mouth shut to the media and that his months old requests are going to be put on the back burner... (By the way did anyone read the President's and First Lady's speech for the bid for the 2016 Olympics... my god... High School Sophmore level speeches at best. ) When I see stuff like I saw on Detroit on the news last week, I thought it was Katrina all over again. I see infrustructure collapsing, I see disasters like Katrina, States that can't balance a budge and declaring bankruptcy of the state....I should weep, Americans should weep. Luckily these places are few if you look at the country as a whole, but these problems are growing and spreading... Government health insurance isn't going to help this. Printing money and wealth distribution is going to help this. Spending our way into oblivion isn't going to solve this. Rewarding failure isn't going to help. Crxpping on the military isn't going to help. America has got real problems, and what is being addressed is not helping these issues. You can knock Fox news all you want, but this is one of the few media sources that are actually making real changes in rooting out corruption and inaquticies of government. They break the story first, and other media sources as CNN, CBS and ABC are having no choice but to follow suit. Government in the US is out of control and officials live like rock stars at citizens expense. Priorities are so far out of wack. The worst part of it is ... they know exactly what they want and are doing it. If anything this administration is waking up the nation fast...and the nation isn't liking what they see in what THIS and PAST government has become. I thank Obama for that even if it was done indirectly. I should of had a V8. 
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10-11-2009, 07:20 AM
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10-11-2009, 11:02 AM
Yes, i would love if you listed the socialist acts. I have heard many "reasons" before, but with some simple research, all of those reasons have been debunked. Its just a buzz word that is meant to strike fear and hatred into the eyes of his opponents.
And I wouldn't hate Fox news so much if they were actually as good as you claim. The reason they "break the story first" is becuase they jump onto stories when they don't even know all the facts. I cant even tell you how many things I have seen that just use speculation and opinion, over fact. If people are going to make fun of Obama for being a tv personality, they should hate Fox news just as much. They do not use news reporters, just tv/radio personalities to host their shows And I do not see any problem whatsoever for him trying to get Chicago into the olympics. In fact I loved it. It could have been a great boost for us. People hated it becuase it was an Obama project. "And this he has better things to do" argument is old too. Can the man do nothing else. Anytime he does anything, he has better things to do.
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10-11-2009, 11:16 AM
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 I complain, you complain, everyone complains... But the majority of us aren't complaining to say "well, if I was up there, I'd be doing a better job". I complain about Algerian politics non stop, the government is corrupt like almost every African government... However, me not being a lawyer, or a politician, I know that I wouldn't be able to do a better job... BUT, I still complain at things I don't like... Every citizen has a right to complain about their country! Comes with something westerners love to call Freedom of Speech! Edit: Also, that little paragraph about why they gave Obama the prize is the problem with many people. I think you'll find that the majority of people that are against this prize are attacking this reason, not Obama... It seems people are too sensitive... Maybe the media in the US has been too negative, so Obama supporters assume that everyone that is against anything Obama, is attacking Obama... This is not the case at all! The closest thing I have to being negative towards Obama is the Obama craze! And even that, it's more a problem with his foreign supporters than Obama himself!!
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10-11-2009, 11:19 AM
Maybe instead of 'congratulations', here we should say おめでと! Haha
Also if you want best unbiased news on event, I go read news in places like Japan Times or China Daily- other countries are good source of a view! There might be a lot of this award we do not know all the details of, so we shouldn't be harsh to judge. Also we should always be happy for good things and not try to say bad things because it makes us look bad and bitter. So let's be nice to our fellow humans- 'omedeto'! (What a speech, do I win the Peace Prize now? Thank you! :P)
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10-11-2009, 11:52 AM
"Don't get me wrong, FOX "News" is incredibly entertaining. "
i disagree,... i supported the afghanistan / iraq war, and still do, but even i couldnt stand more than 5 minutes of fox's right wing bollocks. and wow 11 pages,.... scandanavians havent had this much effect on the world since ABBA! :P
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10-11-2009, 12:53 PM
Obama get the Prize. It's a fact, but it doesn't mean, it's is good desicions. It doesnn't mean all American people must be happy just because US Prezident won the Prize. Is your duty? Is it my duty to be happy, because Lech Walesa won the Peace Nobel in the past? Do you thin the 305(?) millions of people must to be happy? People in Soviet Russia, the Soviet Union must loved Lenin and Stalin, and they loved them. The Campaign looked like total insanity, and this insanity made one step more. That prize is the confirmation of the changing in US and global politics. Socialism, protectionism, trade unions, ecology instead freedom.
Samurai said that Nobel has been given by commies to commies, and he's right. That's why Obama and Walesa won.  
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10-11-2009, 01:51 PM
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People have the right to complain we do it in our everyday lives it natural. My final comment was not really meant for all but more for the poster i quoted and those who think like him. They think they have all the answers, they could do this better they say that while putting down someone who you dont have to like but can knowledge as working damn hard to get where he is. I admire Obama's hardwork to get where he is today and where he was before he was president so when i see someone who obviously has not made any contributions to society act like a smartass yea im going to say something. Which is why i asked him what have you done this year to better the world even if its just a little bit. he could have said what he said without being completely disrespectful and way off base. The attack was not aimed at you or like minded people. But even I understood why he won the prize in the 1 min it took for me to research it. Freedom of Speech damn right i support it, it allows people to say jack ass things and allows me to call them on their bullshit. All this prize did was add to that mans pressure to preform. I actually dont think he wanted but of course he couldnt decline. i really dont care about the prize that much i want the focus to shift back to fixing the problems that need fixing. So the sooner this dies down the better. 
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