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04-06-2010, 06:29 PM

there's many japanese songs that throw in american words even when it makes no sense. people still love the music nevertheless...


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there's many japanese songs that throw in american words even when it makes no sense. people still love the music nevertheless...
I would say they throw in English words, not American words. But this is a little different than the original post.
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I would say they throw in English words, not American words. But this is a little different than the original post.
It is exactly the same, but for some reason people make it a big deal when it's Japanese, but it's not. It doesn't mean a person is a geek or a wannabe; it just means they think it sounds cool/funny or simply they've adopted it to their speech. When I speak Japanese to friends, I mix in English expressions. When I speak Cantonese to friends, I mix in English or Mandarin expressions and so on. It is extremely common among multilingual societies or households. It is also extremely common for a person to constantly use the expressions of the language they're learning while speaking their native tongue.


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It is exactly the same, but for some reason people make it a big deal when it's Japanese, but it's not. It doesn't mean a person is a geek or a wannabe; it just means they think it sounds cool/funny or simply they've adopted it to their speech. When I speak Japanese to friends, I mix in English expressions. When I speak Cantonese to friends, I mix in English or Mandarin expressions and so on. It is extremely common among multilingual societies or households. It is also extremely common for a person to constantly use the expressions of the language they're learning while speaking their native tongue.
Pop music has nothing to do with how people really talk. Do those same singers toss in English when they are speaking Japanese conversationally?

No, they don't. Pop music lyrics are NOT conversational language communication.

It is common to mix languages in multi-lingual societies. However, I don't think the OP is talking about people that are living in a Japan/English mixed society.

It is also extremely common for a person to constantly use the expressions of the language they're learning while speaking their native tongue.


I don't know that it is "extremely common" but if I were friends with someone who was learning a new language and he or she couldn't help but "constantly" throw in expressions from the language he or she was learning, I would find it extremely obnoxious.
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Pop music has nothing to do with how people really talk. Do those same singers toss in English when they are speaking Japanese conversationally?

No, they don't. Pop music lyrics are NOT conversational language communication.

It is common to mix languages in multi-lingual societies. However, I don't think the OP is talking about people that are living in a Japan/English mixed society.

It is also extremely common for a person to constantly use the expressions of the language they're learning while speaking their native tongue.


I don't know that it is "extremely common" but if I were friends with someone who was learning a new language and he or she couldn't help but "constantly" throw in expressions from the language he or she was learning, I would find it extremely obnoxious.
I didn't say a single word about pop music. Every single one of my Japanese friends throw English expressions into their Japanese. All of my Chinese friends throw in English into their Cantonese. Most of my Latin/Hispanic friends throw in Spanish into their English. Many people in Hong Kong throw in English words, phrases, and expressions into their daily speech while hardly knowing the language. Big deal. It is common and it is not a bad thing. It doesn't imply anything. Apparently, some dumbass decided to label foreigners using Japanese expressions as geeks and wannabes, and even dumber dumbasses followed. N*gga please.


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I didn't say a single word about pop music.
But you were responding to my comment to JackisLost's comment:

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there's many japanese songs that throw in american words even when it makes no sense. people still love the music nevertheless...
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I would say they throw in English words, not American words. But this is a little different than the original post.
So we were talking about pop music when you made your comment.

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Every single one of my Japanese friends throw English expressions into their Japanese.

Like I said, in a multi-lingual society, this is normal. Keep in mind this is NOT normal in most of Japan, which is a not a multi-lingual society.
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Big deal. It is common and it is not a bad thing. It doesn't imply anything. Apparently, some dumbass decided to label foreigners using Japanese expressions as geeks and wannabes, and even dumber dumbasses followed. N*gga please.
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Pop music has nothing to do with how people really talk. Do those same singers toss in English when they are speaking Japanese conversationally?

No, they don't. Pop music lyrics are NOT conversational language communication.

It is common to mix languages in multi-lingual societies. However, I don't think the OP is talking about people that are living in a Japan/English mixed society.

It is also extremely common for a person to constantly use the expressions of the language they're learning while speaking their native tongue.


I don't know that it is "extremely common" but if I were friends with someone who was learning a new language and he or she couldn't help but "constantly" throw in expressions from the language he or she was learning, I would find it extremely obnoxious.
Why would you find it extremely obnoxious?


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Like I said, in a multi-lingual society, this is normal. Keep in mind this is NOT normal in most of Japan, which is a not a multi-lingual society.
I am going to assume you mean, throwing in English words, with English pronunciation, not Katakana borrowed words from English which probably comprise a good 10-20% of the modern Japanese language.
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