UN-NATO attack on Libya

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by TalnSG

Then you need to consider the words of the man whose picture you are using.

"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don't believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn't want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn't know how to return the treatment."

Until mankind ceases to wage war in the name of religion, there will be no peace. Christians, Muslims, Jews and most other religions have all had their periods in history when mass murder was justified by forcing the masses to choose between living a lie or death.

Even if wars cease, man will not be at peace as long as retribution and condemnation of those who do not believe in another person's myth persists. As the same man so righfully said,

"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom

What do you mean ? ? Yes I want to consider the words of the man whose picture I am using , where is the problem with his words ?
And there is nothing in my religion called " war in the name of the Islam " , Islam says that all people have the freedom to choose their religion , I don't want to start a religion talk , that's not allowed in this site , but read about Islam from the correct sources .
So please let's stop talking about these things , and let's focus on Libya _ the subject of this thread _[/quote]

[Ryzorian]

Who are the Lybian rebels? Anyone even know who or what thier agenda is or who they are affiliated with? So far most of them seem to be amatures who have nary a clue about how to use the weapons they have or what basic combat tactics are.

[bigeichmannglobestomper]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Palistians were placed there 1000 years ago by Romans to piss off the Hebrews who lived in Isreal, it's also why Rome labled it "palistine", to also piss off the Hebrews. They were orgianally wandering nomads from Jordan. Turth of the matter is that "Palistians" are treated in the Arbian world the same way Gypsies are in Europe, nobody wants them. They just use them as a "crutch" to bitch about Isreal.

By the way, Isrealites are Hebrews, not "Jews". Jew is anyone who converts to Judaisim. A Syrian who converts to Judaisim would be a "Jew".

Lybia is a waste of time and resources for a bunch of madmen fighting for power. It's just Gadafi and his bunch fighting the old tribe who ran the monarchy 45 years ago.

Ottoman Right of return!

Palestinians were supposedly sent by the Romans to "piss off the Hebrews," but the Hebrews were placed there by Yahweh, so the Palestinians can piss off. Africans were brought to North America to toil as slave laborers, but now that slavery is over, they can piss off.


The West will liberate Libya with McDonald's, Disneyland, Coca Cola, pornography and drugs. The West will free Libya of that icky, black stuff in the ground for cheap.

[bigeichmannglobestomper]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

"Waste of time and resources"

You kidding me?

Hello... biggest oil producer in North Africa?

It's why the Brits were sucking Gaddafi's d*ck before the uprising.

While I agree that the military intervention is not an altruistic move (nothing in politics ever is), I think that if it turns out that it works in the favour of the Libyan people, I'm for it.

But where is the intervention in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia which have also fired on it's own citizens? Oh that's right.. Bahrain and Saudi is a US ally.

"If."

If things eventually become really nice in Libya, then I'm for blowing things up and killing people now.

Normalization

If the U.S. was bombed and the aggressors rebuilt the infrastructure and helped establish some modicum of stability, people can say "Everything turned out really nice so I'm glad I supported war against the U.S."

[remembertwelveseven]

Originally Posted by bigeichmannglobestomper

Ottoman Right of return!

Palestinians were supposedly sent by the Romans to "piss off the Hebrews," but the Hebrews were placed there by Yahweh, so the Palestinians can piss off. Africans were brought to North America to toil as slave laborers, but now that slavery is over, they can piss off.


The West will liberate Libya with McDonald's, Disneyland, Coca Cola, pornography and drugs. The West will free Libya of that icky, black stuff in the ground for cheap.

Libyans do not live free like Americans, so attacking the U.S. would not be justifiable.

Judging from your username, you sound like a supporter of Nazi Germany.

Whether you like U.S. corporations like McDonald's or Coca Cola or not, corporations should have the right to operate in countries like Libya. You have the right to not buy from Coca Cola or McDonald's. That's what free market capitalism is about: Freedom. There is no competition in Libya, so people don't have the freedom to choose.

Israel, our only ally in the Middle East, has the sophistication and vision to implement free market capitalist policies, unlike Arab states, whose economies are in the mud.

[bigeichmannglobestomper]

Originally Posted by remembertwelveseven

Libyans do not live free like Americans, so attacking the U.S. would not be justifiable.

Judging from your username, you sound like a supporter of Nazi Germany.

Whether you like U.S. corporations like McDonald's or Coca Cola or not, corporations should have the right to operate in countries like Libya. You have the right to not buy from Coca Cola or McDonald's. That's what free market capitalism is about: Freedom. There is no competition in Libya, so people don't have the freedom to choose.

Israel, our only ally in the Middle East, has the sophistication and vision to implement free market capitalist policies, unlike Arab states, whose economies are in the mud.

America isn't free enough. China will out-freedom the semi-free U.S. by bombing it, then implementing a hyper-Milton Freeman Free Market Capitalist system that will make Noam Chomsky's head explode.

Who says America shouldn't be more free?

"Bigeichmannglobestomper" is what America has become.

[bigeichmannglobestomper]

Originally Posted by remembertwelveseven

Libyans do not live free like Americans, so attacking the U.S. would not be justifiable.

Judging from your username, you sound like a supporter of Nazi Germany.

Whether you like U.S. corporations like McDonald's or Coca Cola or not, corporations should have the right to operate in countries like Libya. You have the right to not buy from Coca Cola or McDonald's. That's what free market capitalism is about: Freedom. There is no competition in Libya, so people don't have the freedom to choose.

Israel, our only ally in the Middle East, has the sophistication and vision to implement free market capitalist policies, unlike Arab states, whose economies are in the mud.

The United States of America sends billions of tax-payer dollars to subsidize the Israeli economy. Perhaps the money is a multi-billion dollar slush fund for the purpose of bribing U.S. Government officials into toeing the AIPAC line.

Niger's economy would be better if multinational oil conglomerates stopped messing with their government's policies.

Ye of too much faith in the Free Market God of Capitalism.

[Kozyra]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Who are the Lybian rebels? Anyone even know who or what thier agenda is or who they are affiliated with? So far most of them seem to be amatures who have nary a clue about how to use the weapons they have or what basic combat tactics are.

I think that a lot of them is from the Task Force Commandos, and the rest those who previously served in the army, and there are also volunteers, and their Military commander : " Abdel Fattah Younes " Who split from Gaddafi but I'm not sure who they are.

[Ryzorian]

Wich really leaves us the problem of the Devil we know in Gaddafi and the Devil we don't in the rebels.

Globestamper; I can concur that American government and corporations are way too cosy with each other and that the US is treading dangerously close to a type of Facisim.

[Ronin4hire]

Originally Posted by Ryzorian

Wich really leaves us the problem of the Devil we know in Gaddafi and the Devil we don't in the rebels.

You're assuming that the rebels are "the devil".

The rebels are likely to be made up of a variety of factions just like the Egyptian revolution was.

United in one cause... the overthrow of Gaddafi.