Aeon fail, ECC is next

[Nathan]

Ah yes, the CoE. That was what took the longest for me, a couple months from start to finish I believe. I can't remember exactly, its been a while. However, I was also in Canada for the whole process.

I would say that's good advice for any job interview. Your personal life should never enter it; after all, what business is it of theirs that you are single/married?

I can't say I'd condone the forging of certifications though.

If you haven't been already, I'd confer with Nyororin. She'll likely know the direction(s) you should be moving in.

[GTJ]

[quote=Nathan;774300]Ah yes, the CoE. That was what took the longest for me, a couple months from start to finish I believe. I can't remember exactly, its been a while. However, I was also in Canada for the whole process.
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Yeah, they said at least 1 month, up to 3 months. My landing permit is only 90 days so unless they hustle up this could get expensive

If you haven't been already, I'd confer with Nyororin. She'll likely know the direction(s) you should be moving in.

I've talked to her a couple of times about this. (Nyororin, whenever you get beck, if this is priveledged information, just go ahead and delete it ) She went the route of coming in for 90 days at a time, renewing, going back home for a few months, coming back here, rinse and repeat, etc, for I forget how long until she got married (for realsies, not for fakesies) with her current husband. She doesn't know much about the procedures we'd have to go through as teachers or other types of workers to get the kind of visa we want as she went straight into the spousal visa. However, I do know she worked just as hard and went through just as much (if not plenty more) hardship as any of us who are fighting (because it is a fight much of the time) to make a life here in Japan. That said, she certainly can tell you about the kind of attitude you need, and speak volumes of personal strength and dedication.

I've said this on other threads, and I truly do believe it when I say:

It depends on how badly you want it.

[Nathan]

高い！金持ちだったね～ (at least I think that's how it was spelled)


I wasn't aware that America doesn't have a working-holiday visa. Silly Americans, when will you catch up with the times! Temporary immigration/emigration isn't so bad!

In so far as 'other visas', you'd have to bring something to the table the company couldn't get from a native Japanese for them to even consider sponsoring you. Hence why most English-speakers are there on 'Specialist in Humanitarian Services' visas for eikaiwas.

I'd love to go back, but its not financially viable at this juncture. That, and my Japanese is pretty piss poor now too.

By the by, what section of Osaka are you staying in? Happen to be near the Tennouji or Abeno-bashi wards?

[GTJ]

Originally Posted by Nathan

I wasn't aware that America doesn't have a working-holiday visa. Silly Americans, when will you catch up with the times! Temporary immigration/emigration isn't so bad!

It's not our fault, actually. The other countries won't play ball, so the program isn't available to us.

In so far as 'other visas', you'd have to bring something to the table the company couldn't get from a native Japanese for them to even consider sponsoring you. Hence why most English-speakers are there on 'Specialist in Humanitarian Services' visas for eikaiwas.

Yup.

That's also why I'm looking for some gigs as a chef at local Italian restaurants. These Japanese chefs just can NOT cut it.

By the by, what section of Osaka are you staying in? Happen to be near the Tennouji or Abeno-bashi wards?

I'm in Higashiosaka. So on the east side. Tennoji is on the south side, so it's far, but not TOO far. The loop line connects us all...

[Nathan]

Ah, the loop line. I used to be able to recite the announcements. I took the loop line the wrong way one day (my first week in Japan) and ended up being an hour late for work


In any case, if you have the spare time / cash, pop by Igosso in Abeno and say hi to Toshi/Mani from Nathan ;p

Its a used clothing store in the mornings, but a very laid back bar in the evenings.

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One of the many reasons why I want to head back to Japan. Great people there.

[GTJ]

Looks like an awesome place, Nathan! There's a place like that near me, actually. Right down the street is a recycle clothes shop with an awesome, laid back bar attached to it.

If you do end up coming back, let me know and I'll head over with ya!

[mzamike]

GTJ, i'm with you on your frustration. i know it wasn't a competition at the interview but i did feel like a good candidate among the rest to land a position. i was prepared, professional and polite (excuse the alliteration). i'm not saying i was perfect because looking back there were definitely things i could work on, plus i didn't study that much for the grammar test which could have possibly broken the deal for me.
i wore a 2 button grey suit, white shirt and black tie, clean shaven, short haircut. leather bound folder with my lesson and handouts ready to go...i thought i was money. come to find out Aeon is actually shifting their male appearance to stand out more. they advise to ditch the dark suits and wear brighter/softer color suits when working for them (something i understood but left me scratching my head a little). I am located in the U.S. now and don't feel like risking my current position for a chance at landing a job. i want to have one before i go. hopefully i'll do well at ECC.

[GTJ]

What's the reasoning for shifting the appearance criteria?

You'll find that appearance plays a stupidly large roll here. Apparently it all depends on what the customers will be intimidated by, so they usually want you to be skinny, clean-shaven, short haircut, meek demeanor, etc. Basically, if you have your own personality, can it.

I have a hard time with this, which is why I'm sticking to small, local, independent schools.

[trunker]

^this,... english schools dont sell english here, they sell dreams.

honestly some of the eikaiwa adverts have the same script as tampon adverts.

[GTJ]

Originally Posted by trunker

^this,... english schools dont sell english here, they sell dreams.

honestly some of the eikaiwa adverts have the same script as tampon adverts.

I laughed so hard I might have pooped a little. THANKS, trunker. Yeesh.