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04-01-2010, 12:12 PM
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![]() anyways, when the dictionary does not list nouns like 答え as (~する verb), can we “invent” our own e.g. 答えする, or is it allowed only because its a contracted form of 答えをする? Regarding the ながら conjugation, is it true that the agent of the [v]ながら and the agent of the action in the main clause must strictly be the same person? e.g. is this incorrect: 山田さんは遊びながら、父は働きます. Also, can the [v]ながら be negative to mean something like “while I am not [v]ing..”, if so how would the conjugation go? (i was thinking 遊びないながら sounds a bit weird) |
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04-01-2010, 12:44 PM
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"Don't do A while doing B." Translate these for me. ご飯を食べながら遊ばないでね。 日本語を勉強しながら変なビデオを見ないでください! ピザを食べながらしゃべるな! |
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04-02-2010, 02:17 PM
thanks for the replies, just one more question regarding 方がいい, is it even common to hear (or will we ever be hearing) [V-dictionary form]方がいい ?
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while eating rice, don't play while studying japanese, don't watch strange videos while eating pizza, don't talk Also, what’s the difference between すでに and もう, does these mean the same thing (and have the same naunce): (1a) ボブはすでに出かけた (1b) ボブはもう出かけた (2a) もう仕事を終えた (2b) すでに仕事を終えた and, if 分かっている already means “I already know”, is it true that no one says もう分かっている or is it fine to include もう to emphasis the “already”. |
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04-02-2010, 02:31 PM
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04-03-2010, 03:47 PM
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Is it true that そればかりか can never stand by itself as a sentence, but other than that it is the same as それだけじゃない? e.g. will these be equal: (1)そればかりか、ボブも優しいですね。 (2)それだけじゃない。ボブも優しいですね。 also, i've noticed that some intransitive verbs cannot be used as a command/request whereas some may, e.g.速く決まってください cannot be a substitute for 速く決めてください, yet we are allowed say 速く走ってください. Is there some kind of rule to decide when intransitive verbs could not take the command/request form, or is it case by case? |
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04-03-2010, 04:29 PM
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ボブも優しい can only mean that someone else is 優しい and Bob, too, is 優しい. I just can't tell from your sentences that you know this. To me, you seem to have wanted to say that Bob has another quality besides being 優しい. If that's the case, your sentnecs are both incorrect. Quote:
One may say 早く決まってください, but this isn't directed at a person. You are praying for quick decision-making. You could call it a command/request to God. Hope you're not reading another mediocre grammar book that tells you that transitive and intransitive verbs each have distinct qualities in Japanese as in another language. Truth is Japanese kids don't even know the words 自動詞 and 他動詞 until they learn about them in English in junior high. |
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04-05-2010, 02:56 AM
i came across some text trying to distinguish the difference between "[v-plain]方がいい" and "[v-た]方がいい". well actually i've realised that some of these explanations do not reflect on the actual usage of the words/phrases so i will put it here for you to judge. It says if the event had not happened yet, we will use [v-plain]方がいい and if the event had already occured, we will use [v-た]方がいい. so if i'm at home and i want to go somewhere, i will say バスで行く方がいい but if i had already made my trip there, i will say バスで行った方がいい. does it make sense, or is it better to use バスで行く方がいい for both cases?
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anyways, I was wondering if this sentence is valid: 先生がこれを学生にくれる。Because from what i know, くれる can only be used when something is given to me or my family member, or are there exceptions to this rule? |
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04-05-2010, 03:30 AM
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It isn't as if there were a "difference" in meaning between the two. It's just that 行った方がいい sounds better and softer in the native ear. Have I not said "hypothetical past tense", multiple times here? Quote:
「ボブは優しい人でもある。」 Learn the position of も correctly NOW or you will be making the same mistake over and over. This mistake is very common among Japanese-learners. ボブも~~ = Bob, as well as Mary and John, is ~~. ボブは~~も = Bob is tall, handsome, rich, and even ~~, too. Quote:
Use 下さる instead of くれる. IMPORTANT: You can say this only if you're one of his/her students. |
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